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To: Warpfactor who wrote (21105)	8/14/2004 12:28:28 AM
From: kodiak_bull	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23153

Warp, I recently exchanged views with a local Democrat. She had sent me about 10 emails (I was on a long list) of pro Democratic stuff, from mainstream to left of center to Hate America First to Michael Moore, usually preceded by something like, "I really want all of my friends to read this, it's really important for our country." I finally sent her back a piece comparing the war on terror to the war against the fascists. She responded by ranting about all that she was worried about, especially that the average American was getting his news from Rupert's stations and was being duped by the Bush administration. I then asked her 1) if she thought the average American was too stupid to make a "good" decision, that is, easily duped. I gave her the examples of the Japanese during WWII as a population which was duped, as is the current population of North Korea, because they have no access to a variety of information. Since Americans have access to a lot of different points of view, they can't be duped (that is kept in the dark), but they might be stupid. She didn't want to answer that question, as it would expose her for the elitist she (and the entire Democratic Party) is. I always find it so interesting that the Democrats are so mistrusting of the democratic process, that is, we rule ourselves by voting legislators into office who make the laws. The Dems always seem to want some judicial tyrant to make the "right" laws (abortion, gay marriage, etc.) WITHOUT THINKING that one day they might end up with a judicial tyrant from the other side of the aisle. (A very sensible discussion of this, btw, takes place between two liberal Harvard Law professors; I find Parker's take very interesting: <<We lawyers often "forget" that it is politics that drives and legitimates changes in the law, not vice versa.>> law.harvard.edu hmmm) And 2) I asked if she could tell me what the proper sources of information should be. Were her sources the proper sources? She said by golly she thought she was pretty well informed, and her sources were NYT, WP, PBS, The New Yorker (!!) and Time Magazine. And CNN. I pointed out that most people would think those sources somewhat to the left of center, while the editorial page of the WSJ, Fox editorial slants, Rush Limbaugh, etc. would be to the right. If she could get all her news and comment from the left, was she really so certain that her sources should be everybody's? Her response to my questions was not answers, as you can imagine. Rather, she said, "Well, I can see you already have YOUR mind made up, so this is useless." Kb

To: Warpfactor who wrote (21105)	8/15/2004 12:37:38 AM
From: whitepine	Respond to of 23153

OT: Warp >Now, it appears that the public school system is producing Democrat clones through their relentless brainwashing.< Amen. The process arises from those in education with fuzzy ideas like "Save the Whales." In the main, the army of teachers is clueless, even as they worship the secular mantra of 'critical thinking skills.' I heard that so much that I want to puke. After their early twenties, it just becomes a mind-set. Few have even heard of Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell. Perhaps one or two have read their works. In a dialogue with liberals, ask them to explain monopoly or greed. Ask them to explain who is trying to 'exploit' them more: Exxon or their local farmer? When modern art (a row of urinals) sells at auction for 250K, ask who is exploiting whom? End of discussion. Michael Moore is a classic case. If you review his film on Roger Smith, Moore criticizes GM for wanting to close the Buick Flint factory because sales were falling. Yes, keep the factory running, aka Soviet rationale, just to provide jobs for union members. Then, I presume, we should be forced to buy Buicks. ..and so it goes. wp