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To: LindyBill who wrote (60700)8/15/2004 10:16:10 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793839
 
Some comments from the "Swift Vets message board about the Cal Thomas interview. Seems the Kerry Kamp sent a guy named Hurly.

Hurley's opening remark was so weak and hackneyed that I had to type it up:

"This book is a disgrace. It's a disgrace because it's based on lies and distortions. This book is cowardly. It is cowardly because John O'Neill and his right-wing hang-monging (sic) Jerome Corsi co-author never once tried to interview any of the men who served with John Kerry when he won his silver Star, his Bronze Star and his three Purple Hearts. This book, this...the ads they're running on television and this organization, these Swift Boat Veterans for Bush, is, as John McCain has said...a...it is dishonest and it is dishonorable. And Senator McCain has called upon President Bush to condemn this ad and President Bush, we're still waiting. We would like you to condemn this ad. This is wrong, this is revisionist history, it is unfair, it's character assasination, and it...pure and simple."

1. Mr. O'Neill finally called Hurley out for "shouting him down" and Cal Thomas let him do it!

2. Cal let John O'Neill answer every charge laid by Hurley.

3. When Hurley said that O'Neill couldn't possibly have written an honest book because he (O'Neill) had never served with Kerry, Cal asked Hurley whether he (Hurley) had served with Kerry, and when told "No" questioned his basis for believing Kerry's version of events!

4. Cal recommended that people read the book in order make up their minds!

swiftvets.com



To: LindyBill who wrote (60700)8/16/2004 1:14:36 AM
From: haqihana  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793839
 
LB, The original reservation system was a travesty as far as caring for the Indians is concerned. It would take a long time to list all of the misdeeds by the Indian agents of the time, but from the places I have been, things have changed a great deal. There are 22 tribes in Oklahoma, and they can go anywhere, anytime, they want. In Tahlequah, the headquarters of the Cherokee Nation, they own many of the business in that county, and the same is true in other areas. The Cherokee still in NC, and TN, own an entire town, and what is called a reservation has completely open borders. The same is true of the Navaho, Zuni, Hopi, Apache, Ute, Piute, and Shoshone. I have not yet been up into the Lakota, Northern Arapaho, Cheyenne, Crow, Blackfoot, Nez Perce, and other tribes in the Pacific North West, not any of them in the North East. Although I am a little bit Mohawk, and Seneca, I have never been in the areas where they now live most of the time. Many of them live in NYC, and work the high steel, but the other tribes of the Iriquois Federation are scattered to the west, and in southern parts of Canada.

They are coming back. Several of the larger tribes have chiefs that have law degrees, and know how to play the white man's game.