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To: jim-thompson who wrote (607251)8/21/2004 12:13:08 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Respond to of 769670
 
The purple hearts out may give the credit. Is there any other example of any person taking a 3 purple out with any length of service in Vietnam.



To: jim-thompson who wrote (607251)8/21/2004 12:19:51 PM
From: jmhollen  Respond to of 769670
 
It will certainly be interesting to see if the "..mine.." (..not the non-existent enemy fire..) that knocked the "..rescued.." sailor off of "..Hairy BS Kerry's.." speedboat actually turns out to be another of LURCH's own grenades - that he dropped over the side duct-taped to a life vest, so he could run into it.

That sure would help one of the oh-so-very-convenient 'Kennedy Studios Photographers' to catch all the hot "..pseduoACTION.." for their historically-manipulated, "..pseudoPT-109.." battlefield "..pseudoCOMBAT.." films...!!!

"...Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..............

John :-)
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To: jim-thompson who wrote (607251)8/21/2004 1:01:49 PM
From: Kenneth E. Phillipps  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
From the Seattle Times

Although the ad makes it appear as if Kerry is recounting atrocities he witnessed, he in fact was reciting claims made by soldiers that year during an anti-war gathering in Detroit. "They had personally raped, cut off heads, cut off ears," he told senators

seattletimes.nwsource.com



To: jim-thompson who wrote (607251)8/21/2004 5:05:08 PM
From: J_F_Shepard  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
re:" have asked many many times for a list of names of personnel who served less than 6 months and then i lengthened it to less than 8 months and got credit for serving a 12 month tour. to this day, the only name on the list is john kerry."

You could start with a list of about 60,000 names on a memorial in Washington.....

BTW, am I correct in stating that a "normal" tour during the war was 12 months which consisted of 6 months in combat and 6 months in the rear????



To: jim-thompson who wrote (607251)8/21/2004 5:10:05 PM
From: bentway  Respond to of 769670
 
Kerry joined the United States Navy on February 18, 1966. He began his military service on August 22. After completing sixteen weeks of Officer Candidate School at the U.S. Naval Training Center in Newport, Rhode Island, he received his commission on December 16.
On Christmas Day, Kerry said goodbye to his relatives as he left for the ten-week Officer Damage Control Course at the Naval Schools Command on Treasure Island, California, which began on January 3, 1967. On March 22, he reported to the U.S. Fleet Anti-Air Warfare Training Center for training as a Combat Information Center Watch Officer.

Kerry began his first tour of duty June 8, 1967, serving as an ensign in the electrical department on the guided missile frigate USS Gridley. On February 9, 1968, the Gridley set sail for Western Pacific deployment. The next day, Kerry requested duty in Vietnam, listing as his first preference a position as the commander of a Fast Patrol Craft (PCF), also known as a "Swift boat." These 50-foot boat have aluminum hulls and have little or no armor, but are heavily armed and rely on speed. (Kerry's second choice was a to be an officer in a patrol boat squadron, designated the Patrol Boat River [PBR] boats.)

The Gridley traveled to several places, including Wellington in New Zealand, Subic Bay in the Philippines, and the Gulf of Tonkin off North Vietnam, where the ship supported aircraft carriers. The ship had no enemy contact during this time, and departed for the U.S. on May 27, returned to port at Long Beach, California on June 6.

Ten days after returning, on June 16, Kerry was promoted to the rank of Lieutenant, junior grade; on June 20, Kerry left Gridley for special training at the Naval Amphibious Base in Coronado. After completing Swift boat commander training on November 17, Kerry reported for duty at Coastal Squadron 1 of Coastal Division 14 at the Cam Ranh Bay in South Vietnam, arriving on December 1.
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Kerry's tour of duty as commander of a Swift boat

The two Swift boats that Kerry successively commanded took part in Operation SEALORD, the brainchild of Admiral Elmo Zumwalt. The goal was to project a U.S. military presence more aggressively into an area that had long been a Viet Cong stronghold. As part of that plan, the Swift boats were assigned to patrol the narrow waterways — inlets, canals, and coves — of the Mekong River delta, to monitor enemy movements, interdict enemy river-based supply lines, invite attack and otherwise draw out hostile forces.

During a four-month tour of duty as boat commander, Kerry led five-man crews on patrols into enemy-controlled areas near the Cua Long River. His first command was Swift Boat PCF-44. In late January 1969 Kerry was transferred to PCF-94, which he led on 18 missions over the next 48 days.