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Politics : Proof that John Kerry is Unfit for Command -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: JDN who wrote (4131)	8/29/2004 7:24:29 AM
From: TideGlider	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27181

You don't understand JD, he/she read a LOT about NAM Man! That is why he/she signed up on SI, because he/she could serve now in the fight against the MAN!

To: JDN who wrote (4131)	8/29/2004 9:32:17 AM
From: bentway	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 27181

JDN, you're a vet. How can you support this guy: George W. Bush LIED about how he got into the TANG! "I can tell you what happened. Nothing happened. My Guard unit was looking for pilots and I flew for the Guard," Bush said at a campaign appearance south of Houston. Former Texas Lt Governor: "I'm very ashamed" The former Texas official who got George Bush into the National Guard apologizes for making sure that young men with important "family names" did not have to fight in Vietnam. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Jeff Horwitz Aug. 27, 2004 \| Another bombshell in the battle over Vietnam service that has been raging in the 2004 presidential race exploded on the Web Friday. In a video originally posted on the Web by a pro-Kerry organization in Austin, Texas, Ben Barnes, a former lieutenant governor of Texas, apologized for his role in getting a young George W. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard while young men who were not from prominent or wealthy families "died in Vietnam." "Let's talk a minute about John Kerry and George Bush, and I know them both," said Barnes in the video, which was filmed at a gathering of about 200 Kerry supporters in Austin on May 27. "I got a young man named George W. Bush into the Texas National Guard when I was lieutenant governor, and I'm not necessarily proud of that. But I did it. I got a lot of other people in the National Guard because I thought that was what people should do when you're in office, and you help a lot of rich people." "And I walked to the Vietnam Memorial the other day," Barnes continued, "and I looked at the names of the people that died in Vietnam, and I became more ashamed of myself than I have ever been, because it was the worst thing I ever did, was help a lot of wealthy supporters and a lot of people who had family names of importance get into the National Guard. And I'm very sorry about that, and I'm very ashamed, and I apologize to you as voters of Texas." Barnes then condemned the Republican attacks on John Kerry's war service: "And I tell you that for the Republicans to jump on John Kerry and say that he is not a patriot after he went to Vietnam and was shot at and fought for our freedom and came back here and protested against the war, he's a flip-flopper, let me tell you: John Kerry is a 100 times better patriot than George Bush or Dick Cheney." The video of Barnes was filmed by Todd Phelan and Mike Nicholson, organizers of a political group called Austin4Kerry. Phelan is currently an organizer for the Travis County Democrats. The video first appeared on the Austin4Kerry Web site on June 25, but was widely overlooked until Friday. The video also includes a separate interview conducted by the same two filmmakers in which Barnes speaks with admiration about Kerry's valor. Phelan and Nicholson recall they were surprised by the candor of Barnes' remarks while they were filming him at the rally. "To be honest with you, my eyes lit up instantaneously," Phelan told Salon. "I looked at Mike, he looked at me, and it was like 'Did he just say that?'" But at the time, said Phelan, they did not think the video would create a stir. He suggested that the video suddenly became a Web phenomenon because of the heated swift boat controversy that has been fanned by supporters of Bush. Barnes' story about Bush and the Air National Guard first broke in 1999 as the then Texas governor was mounting his first campaign for the presidency. Bush insisted at the time that neither he nor his father sought Barnes' assistance. "I can tell you what happened," said Bush. "Nothing happened. My Guard unit was looking for pilots and I flew for the Guard. I'm proud of my service and any allegation that my dad asked for special favors is simply not true ... I didn't ask anybody to help get me to the Guard either." Barnes said at the time that it was a wealthy Bush family friend, a Houston oilman named Sidney Adger, who came to him with the request to help the younger Bush. www.salon.com

To: JDN who wrote (4131)	8/29/2004 10:45:15 AM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27181

BS. Kerry has fought some very tough fights in his way against powerful special interests. His very protesting of the war made him very powerful enemies which resonates to this day. O'Neill after all was Nixon and Colson's chosen hitman to take out Kerry in 1971, but he failed. Kerry has gone up against the Viet Cong, the Nixon White House, the BCCI Bank (including some top democrats), Iran-Contra and the CIA (versus the DEA which Kerry was fighting for), Reagan at his most popular, polluters, Big Oil, some unions, big-spending liberals, those oposed to normalizing Vietnam relations, Detroit automakers, drug companies, HMO's, etc. Any one of those special interests could have destroyed him. All that took courage. it is Bush who is flip-flopping, every four years at least he changes himself from a neocon righrwingers into a compassionate moderate. Just look at the charade which is this week's convention. Putting on speakers who disagree completely with him on every issue but Iraq. mcCain has fought harder against Bush than anyone in the past four years but since Bush needs to him win he kowtows to him and pretends they're friends. for the ultimate flip-flop watch Bush finally admit global warming is real, pretending to go up against his polluter backers. Amazing.

To: JDN who wrote (4131)	8/29/2004 10:49:47 AM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27181

Amazing Bush keeps lying about his Guard (lack of) service when it's painfully obvious to everyone that he skipped out and the evidence is there. Why doesn't he just do what CLinton and Dean did and admit they wanted to avoid the war and pulled some strings? How can anyone believe anything Bush says when he cannot even tell the truth about this basic matter? I see he FINALLY admits to "miscalculations" in Iraq but he still won't admit to lying about WMD's and other matters there either. It seems he lives in a fantasy world where he believes he can get away with anything so long as his spinners are hard at work for him.