To: Kevin Rose who wrote (616224 ) 9/1/2004 7:49:22 PM From: tonto Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670 No, it was not that easy. There is a reason for that. To ensure a military force at that time. For example: on 16 February 1968 the federal government eliminated draft deferments for most graduate students on Oct. 6, 1965, the Selective Service lifted its ban on drafting married men with no children. You are looking at earlier dates for Cheney...the information you posted is very much like the information I have posted, so I assume it is from the same place. So you know about dates and excluded them...While the rhetoric flies between George W. Bush and John Kerry about each other's Vietnam-era military service, it turns out that Dick Cheney went to incredible lengths to avoid any military service whatsoever. Cheney got five draft deferments during the time he was of eligible age, between 1959 and 1967, according to the New York Times. "Five deferments seems incredible to me," said David Curry, a professor at the University of Missouri who has written extensively on the draft. "That's a lot of times for the draft board to say OK." Cheney applied for his first student deferment in January 1963 at the age of 22, when he was enrolled at Casper, Wyoming Community College. He applied for his second deferment on July 23, 1963 after transferring to the University of Wyoming at Laramie. He got married 22 days after the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, and then sought his third deferment on Oct. 14, 1964. In May 1965 he graduated from college and his draft status changed to 1-A, available for service. He obtained his fourth deferment when he started graduate school at the University of Wyoming on Nov. 1, 1965. Then, on Oct. 6, 1965, the Selective Service lifted its ban on drafting married men with no children. Exactly nine months and two days later, Lynne Cheney gave birth to their first daughter. Back when Lynne was 10 weeks pregnant, Dick had applied to change his status to 3-a "hardship" exemption, which excluded men with children. It was granted. No mention is made as to whether he had any political or other connections that helped get so many deferments. Kerry certainly could have secured that deferment, or gone into the Guard, and been insured of missing Vietnam. He had the connections and the background to do so. He wanted to delay going in for a year of graduate work, but signed up when his deferment was disallowed. He could have married like Cheney did, right when the draft needed more people but didn't take married ones. He could have had a baby like Cheney, 9 months and 2 days after they started drafting married men. He could have secured 5 deferments, staying in school until right after turning 26 and becoming ineligible for the draft, then quitting school - just like Cheney. But, he didn't. He could have avoided service, but instead signed up. He could have ridden the war out on the Gridley, but he signed up for Swift boats. Vietnam. Combat. He could have been like Cheney, Bush, Clinton, Rove, and the rest, and avoided service in Vietnam. But, instead, he CHOSE to service, REQUESTED Vietnam, and won 5 medals. Yes, there is really no comparison between Kerry and Bush, on so many fronts...