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To: carranza2 who wrote (67472)	9/6/2004 12:21:10 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793903

The Dems know that RI exists, naturally. However, I think that what they perhaps fail to see are the magnitude of its goals Disagree. The Dems don't know that RI exists as an ideology with adherents. They see 9/11 as a criminal conspiracy whose surviving conspirators should be prosecuted or killed. But they speak of AQ as being a small bunch of people. They don't acknowledge the existence of the much larger RI movements or their goals.

To: carranza2 who wrote (67472)	9/6/2004 1:40:23 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793903

Ironically, RI's goal is so huge and so all-encompassing that it cannot succeed if only because of the size of its ambitions. This is an interesting paradox and the key to defusing and defeating it. I agree with that, but would suggest that part of diffusing it is to make enough of them fat and happy that they put aside the impossible dream. Focus on beating them back may wear them out but it also makes them mad martyrs. It's necessary to give them a way to change horses without losing face. Simply beating them back leads to continued anger and frustration. If we want to win by fighting them, then we have to be more brutal and crush them. If we're not prepared to be that brutal, then we need to show them a way out that works for them and for us.

To: carranza2 who wrote (67472)	9/6/2004 11:30:45 PM
From: skinowski	Respond to of 793903

Ironically, RI's goal is so huge and so all-encompassing that it cannot succeed if only because of the size of its ambitions. I think for practical purposes Radical Islam (RI) extremists can be best seen as professional revolutionaries, who's goal is to capture political power in their own (Muslim) countries. Once (and IF, of course) they succeed, then they will worry about their larger goals. They may decide to take several decades - or as long as needed - to build a few Gulags and re-educate those among their fellow Muslims whom they might think to be a little too "moderate". ...In other words, the size of their goal need not stop them. They'll settle for what's possible.