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To: GST who wrote (145088)	9/8/2004 1:07:40 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Of course it works that way. There was resentment, but comparatively little resistance, in the South after the Civil War. In WWII, the Italians welcomed us as liberators; the Germans never engaged in any serious backlash against occupation; neither did the Japanese. Occupations always occur in a context. Some elicit resistance, some do not. If the occupation is constructive, it is generally accepted.

To: GST who wrote (145088)	9/8/2004 1:32:11 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"...and the first and most basic form of freedom is freedom from foreign military domination." Is this in the Declaration of Independence? I googled it alongside Thomas Jefferson and came up with nothing. What a joke. Wouldnt you consider freedom from mass murderer ruler or freedom from terror a higher form of freedom? As Neocon points out, we have been heralded as saviours in different time and different places. You think the Hungarians would have hated us in 1956? or the Czechs in 1968?

To: GST who wrote (145088)	9/8/2004 2:09:27 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 281500

You think people accept living under an army of occupation so long as they are offered something in return? No. It does not work that way. People want to be free And they are much freer with the US army as the strongest force in the country then they would be with the Baathists, Al-Qaeda, or the "Mahdi Army" in charge. -- and the first and most basic form of freedom is freedom from foreign military domination. The US military dominates in the sense that it is by far the most powerful military force in the country, but it doesn't really rule the country, and control is passing over more and more to Iraqis. The choice for Iraqis is do they want a relatively moderate government, or do they want the religious fanatics to take over (I'd list the Baathists as another alternative but I think they are mostly a spent force, they can still cause trouble but they won't control Iraq). Tim