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To: GST who wrote (145348)9/10/2004 1:47:39 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
The Vietnamese drove the French from the North -- we took over in the South after the French had decided it was not worth it to hold onto their colony.

The French and the US helped establish the government in the South, well the US helped established the government in the South of Korea, the West of Germany and in many other places as well. The fact that a country is set up with the help of foreign powers doesn't make it less of a country, nor does it mean that aggression against it, even aggression by people trying to reestablish a country in something like its traditional boundaries is not aggression.

The US did not want to see Vietnam unified.

The US would have been fine with having Vietnam (and Korea) unified. They just didn't want to see the communists take over.

and now they are free.

That is a bit of an exaggeration don't you think?

Tim



To: GST who wrote (145348)9/16/2004 8:36:13 AM
From: unclewest  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
The Vietnamese drove the French from the North -- we took over in the South after the French had decided it was not worth it to hold onto their colony. The US did not want to see Vietnam unified. That was the core issue of the "American war".

Wrong.
Vietnam was a unified country until 1954. A temporary agreement worked out in Geneva that year divided the country into N and S for two years with unifying elections to be held in 56... Ho and the Communists took control of the N and the scheduled reunification never happened.

To go a bit further back, the Japanese occupied Vietnam during WW II. When Japan surrendered, the Communists attempted to take control of the entire country. The French returned to prevent that.

The 1954 Geneva agreement called for reunification, with free elections throughout the country to be held in 1956. But Ho took control of the N in late 54 and immediately established a communist state. Free elections were never possible in the N.