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To: unclewest who wrote (55510)	9/12/2004 5:00:15 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

Look who's paying attention to American politics. Wish we could get more of our own people to see this in the same light! KERRY RUNNING IN WRONG COUNTRY? Below are Kerry-Bush poll results based on surveys by GlobeScan Inc and University of Maryland PIPA. Kerry is the first figure. Norway: 74%-7% Germany: 74%-10% France: 64%-5% Italy: 58%-14% Spain: 45%-7% UK: 47%-16% Canada: 61%-16% Mexico: 38%-18% Brazil: 57%-14% China: 52%-12% Japan: 43%-32% Indonesia: 57%-34% India: 34%-33% Philippines: 32%-57% Nigeria: 33%-27% Poland: 26%-31% Thailand: 30%-33%

To: unclewest who wrote (55510)	9/12/2004 8:16:33 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

There is a helluva lot more to this story than that one opinion. There is no doubt that there is important information for which we aren't privy. I don't think the news organisations should present so much anonymous evidence and ask for the public's trust, because obviously much of the public doesn't trust the news or the government. But ambiguity does not confirm the forgery theory, in fact it works against it. If we are to believe that these are forgeries, then the forger supposidly made mistakes, like using a computer. The problem is, these memos don't really have all the characteristics of a computer formatted memo, for example the dates don't line up with the margins. This requires the forgery theory to complicate itself by assuming that the forger knew enough to try and confuse the formatting, but didn't know enough to just change the font. It doesn't hold water. If you assume the memos are authentic, there are some headscratchers about equipment, but the set of actions are consistent, that is to say there is no need to assume the author changed motives or techniques in the middle. TP