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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (71688)	9/19/2004 9:51:07 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793955

(don't believe me, ask UNICEF, which generated the estimate. I bought UNICEF Christmas cards in 1959. Nowadays, I doubt if you would find anybody here who believe stats put out by them. The sanctions didn't cause any problems with Iraqi kids. It was caused by Saddam and his thugs's diversion of the money.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (71688)	9/19/2004 9:51:15 AM
From: aladin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793955

Mary, The UN and old Europe crowd do not care about foreign children. They care about their own pocketbooks. Need an example? Its called Dafur - 10,000 dead per month is the current estimate. We call it genocide, they think its more nuanced than that and needs study. So arguing about saving innocents will never get an agreement. John

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (71688)	9/19/2004 11:28:19 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793955

>>If ever I am guilty as sin, I would want you to defend me. I didn't write the thing you're quoting, that was Thomas P.M. Barnett, the guy who works for the Navy and wrote "The Pentagon's New Map." Who is, by the way, a Democrat and is voting for Kerry. There were many, many reasons given for the Iraq war. One of them were WMDs. Turns out that we haven't been able to find WMDs but we have found out that Saddam wanted WMDs. Should we have waited until he got them? No. Many, including Kerry, argue that sanctions were working. Barnett points out that sanctions were not working, because the human cost was too high. When assessing the effectiveness of a policy, you have to assess ALL the data. The deaths of Iraqi children were unintended but real. I wish SI search function worked, I'd love to find my list of reasons for the war that I wrote PRIOR to the war. It was quite lengthy.