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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (204542)9/30/2004 10:52:48 PM
From: brian1501  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1572631
 
By the way, Ted, I thought Kerry did a better job at the debate tonight than Bush. Kerry was more coherent and brought up more "facts" than Bush did, and Kerry did a great job portraying himself as strong on defense. Bush had a chance to call "B.S." on a lot more of Kerry's act than Bush actually did

I have to agree Ten. Bush had many opportunities to take Kerry down and instead reverted to his overall (repetative) message. I think he went back to it too often and should have hung Kerry on facts/his previous statements more.

Bush did not articulate properly how Iraq fits into the war on terror and he let Kerry portray the simplistic "Osama attacked us, not Saddam". It would have been easy for him to explain that Afghanistan was a direct result of 9/11, and Iraq is a result of the change in paradigm caused by 9/11. He didn't do that.

Brian



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (204542)9/30/2004 10:58:30 PM
From: Joe NYC  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572631
 
Tenchusatsu,

Kerry had a good debate performance, but I am not sure how many minds he changed to his side. I am not sure his position on Iraq, the nuance of a difference of how he would go to war differently (after voting for it), was entirely persuasive. IMO, Kerry has lost some votes to Nader, and some of the antiwar people may not be too happy or convinced about his exit strategy.

He might have gained some votes in the middle, but I am not sure what the net of the gains and losses is going to be.

I just spoke to a guy who is a black (I believe a Democrat) who this year is voting for Bush, and he said he is not going to even watch the debate (baseball is on as well), because there is nothing that Kerry can say to persuade him that we as a country can take a risk for the next 4 years on someone who has not made up his mind about the most important issue on the table.

Joe



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (204542)10/1/2004 1:20:14 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572631
 
By the way, Ted, I thought Kerry did a better job at the debate tonight than Bush. Kerry was more coherent and brought up more "facts" than Bush did, and Kerry did a great job portraying himself as strong on defense. Bush had a chance to call "B.S." on a lot more of Kerry's act than Bush actually did, and I think that was either a mistake or simply a lack of debating skills on the part of the president.

Interesting..........I'm surprised that would be your take.

I can't really comment. I watched all of 30 minutes before I started yelling which did little good for either the debates or me. So instead I played some games online.

I hope JF reads this, given that he probably thinks I'm too partisan to tell it like it is.

I am sure he will see it. There is no longer any ignore.