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To: QwikSand who wrote (62103)	10/4/2004 11:16:50 AM
From: alydar	Respond to of 64865

OTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOT Doesn't anything Bush accomplishd over the past 4 mean anything? Education: Test scores are going up because Bush got a educational bill pushed through. Clinton wanted this part of his legacy, along with peace in the middle east, but failed. Economy: We had one of the biggest bubbles in the history of U.S. and we are coming through it relatively unscathed. I do not know if the tax cut had that much of an effect but the economy is doing fine. 5.5% unemployment is fantastic. In my 40+ years in this country 5.5% was always considered good and the best rates were at the end of the boom of late 90's of 4.0% are unrealistic. Also, unemployment is going to fall on a cyclical basis in the future. The labor pool in the U.S. is shrinking because we are a aging population. Decades from now we are going to grateful we established business relationships with people of other parts world to do our commodity work. The only think that can keep the U.S. economy growing is innovation and that comes from private business not bigger govenrment. Does anyone disagree with this? Does anyone on this thread think that there should be 0.0% unemployment. Think of all the people you know and ask yourself an honest question. Would you hire them if you had a company? Maybe I have screwed up acquaintances but my answer is no. Also, tech is picking up again, although, albeit, slowly. Corporate Responsibility: When a president of the United States is getting his dick sucked by a whore while making both important domestic and foreign policy decisions is a strong signal to corporate america to do whatever you want. Leadership does start at the top! Corporate governance has improved substantially over the past four years. Iraq War: Can anyone here disagree that a free Iraq would not be a stabalizing entity for the middle east and the world. I know the loss of American life is hard but it is neccessary if we are to be leaders of the free world. Most of the fundametalist Muslims are fighting life crazy in Iraq because freedom is exactly what they do not want. I guess all the women on this thread think that the stoning of women is appropriate in other parts of the world. Religion: I do not agree with Bush's religious positioning but I do not think he has imposed his beliefs on me except to the extent that I believe in stem cell research. I believe Bush's faith is getting in the way of what a majority of the in the U.S. want. Alydar

To: QwikSand who wrote (62103)	10/4/2004 2:50:24 PM
From: Steve Dietrich	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

Well my hypothesis is pretty tounge in cheek, i think it's foolish, though amusing, to overly simplify market moves the way analysts do. But there's some sense to it being one of many factors: Most would agree that Rubin was an excellent Treasury Secretary, we know excessive federal debt is a long-term drag on the economy and market. And with divided government each party is so busy trying stop whatever the other side is doing that we'd end what's going on now: the pigs are feeding at the trough. I think it's at least fair to say that the market is hardly spooked by the idea of a Kerry presidency as so many Bush propagandists around here would have us believe. Steve Dietrich