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Politics : Stockman Scott's Political Debate Porch -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: stockman_scott who wrote (58644)10/6/2004 9:58:17 AM
From: Jim Willie CB  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 89467
 
some (never unbiased) polls on VP debate

of 600,640 people in AOL voting on VP debate
50% Cheney, 50% Edwards
Chimp II vs Pretty Boy

in AOL follow through
16% undecideds swayed to Kerry, 13% swayed to Bushy

of 14,350 votes from CNBC poll
Edwards 60%, Cheney 40%

I think the financially connected provide Bushy much much less support than most people think
federal deficits are monstrous, like $600 billion
when after Sochacurity pilferage, it is ONLY $420B or so
trade gaps are growing, now $600B annual pace
which has occurred after a big euro currency adjustment

I thought Edwards was good at hitting some major weaknesses
but should have gone deeper on Halliburton, not just no-bid contracts
like with Cheney's stock options, and his lies to the public about vested interest
Cheney lied in bold manner by denying HAL did anything wrong
HAL admitted to fraud, paid fines, and entered it in earnings statements
Cheney, according to CNN expert, looked ashen versus redcheeked Edwards

Edwards should have made some acknowledgement of Iraqi security force losses, whose guys are brave and walk into a meat grinder, even if some might have single motive of earning $20 per day
Edwards should have talked more about the Bushy-Cheney disregard of NATO, a longstanding pillar, and how Bushy lacks intelligence to understand difficult issues

Cheney looked like a more fair man
Bushy looked like he wanted to suspend free speech, and exile Kerry to a faraway island for accusing him of lying and being incompetent
just like Bushy retired a general who offered dissenting opinion on required troop count
and who turned out to be very correct
Bushy looked like he was frustrated in not being able to complete his totalitarian initiative, thwarted by the Constitution
Cheney looked a bit more resigned to the process of fairness

oh well, Edwards did not hurt, and as data above shows, helped a little

an analytic note from a statistician on bias.....

AOL is much more representative of the public than CNBC, but it is clearly biased toward those with a PC at home or work, which rules out the lower classs and computer illiterates
however, it is probably a very decent adequate cross section among quick survey devices
the tilt of Dem vs GOP is probably close to the public

CNBC is extremely biased toward the financial niche
it is much more popular among non-working retirees
the ultra-wealthy do not have as much viewership as believed, since they are busy doing their jobs and running their businesses
the tilt of Dem vs GOP is probably heavily favored toward GOP

(for this reason, Kerry's 72% and Edwards' 60% should cause deep loud alarm)

/ jim