To: stockman_scott who wrote (58644 ) 10/6/2004 9:58:17 AM From: Jim Willie CB Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 89467 some (never unbiased) polls on VP debate of 600,640 people in AOL voting on VP debate 50% Cheney, 50% Edwards Chimp II vs Pretty Boy in AOL follow through 16% undecideds swayed to Kerry, 13% swayed to Bushy of 14,350 votes from CNBC poll Edwards 60%, Cheney 40% I think the financially connected provide Bushy much much less support than most people think federal deficits are monstrous, like $600 billion when after Sochacurity pilferage, it is ONLY $420B or so trade gaps are growing, now $600B annual pace which has occurred after a big euro currency adjustment I thought Edwards was good at hitting some major weaknesses but should have gone deeper on Halliburton, not just no-bid contracts like with Cheney's stock options, and his lies to the public about vested interest Cheney lied in bold manner by denying HAL did anything wrongHAL admitted to fraud, paid fines, and entered it in earnings statements Cheney, according to CNN expert, looked ashen versus redcheeked Edwards Edwards should have made some acknowledgement of Iraqi security force losses, whose guys are brave and walk into a meat grinder, even if some might have single motive of earning $20 per day Edwards should have talked more about the Bushy-Cheney disregard of NATO, a longstanding pillar, and how Bushy lacks intelligence to understand difficult issues Cheney looked like a more fair man Bushy looked like he wanted to suspend free speech, and exile Kerry to a faraway island for accusing him of lying and being incompetent just like Bushy retired a general who offered dissenting opinion on required troop count and who turned out to be very correct Bushy looked like he was frustrated in not being able to complete his totalitarian initiative, thwarted by the Constitution Cheney looked a bit more resigned to the process of fairness oh well, Edwards did not hurt, and as data above shows, helped a little an analytic note from a statistician on bias..... AOL is much more representative of the public than CNBC, but it is clearly biased toward those with a PC at home or work, which rules out the lower classs and computer illiterates however, it is probably a very decent adequate cross section among quick survey devices the tilt of Dem vs GOP is probably close to the public CNBC is extremely biased toward the financial niche it is much more popular among non-working retirees the ultra-wealthy do not have as much viewership as believed, since they are busy doing their jobs and running their businesses the tilt of Dem vs GOP is probably heavily favored toward GOP(for this reason, Kerry's 72% and Edwards' 60% should cause deep loud alarm) / jim