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To: ThirdEye who wrote (13240)10/11/2004 12:25:05 AM
From: GraceZ  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
If the society truly wanted to promote that ethic, they might be given the tools somewhere along the way.

Basically you are saying that if we (society) want people to be self sufficient, we have to teach them to be, correct? If they haven't learned to be, then it is our failure (as a society) not their own?

Doesn't this in some way, say that someone else, besides yourself, is responsible for your prosperity? That society is in some way responsible to "give you the tools"? Thank you for making my point, it shows how deeply ingrained the idea that people shouldn't have to be responsible for their own welfare is in this country.

People are not prepared to actually take their lives into their own hands.

How condescending. How did your forefathers get here? Mine took their lives in their own hands and crossed the ocean for a better life. Some of our forefathers (and mothers) walked across the continent next to a covered wagon. Are you saying that people are in some way less capable NOW, than they were 150-200 years ago? Less educated? Have fewer tools at their disposal? I learned about financial planning at a three week night class offered by a local college, it cost me $50. I took it because I realized that I didn't know a freakin thing about how money worked. Most, if not all, of that simple course is available free, online to anyone who treks off to a public library and uses the computers there. All they lack is the desire to admit they know nothing.

The only thing the government can do for people to prosper is to provide an environment that allows free markets, protection for private property and the rule of law. To understand where governments fail is to look at those countries which have strayed the farthest from providing those three things, or like our own continually pass laws which erode those concepts. The cheapest labor on the planet comes from those countries that have never developed the principle of private property nor had the rule of law to protect it.



To: ThirdEye who wrote (13240)10/11/2004 2:14:46 AM
From: mishedlo  Respond to of 116555
 
Gold price forecast for 2005
kitco.com
October 08, 2004

I was at the Denver Gold Forum two weeks ago where Dr. Martin Murenbeeld gave a morning presentation. If there is one gold analyst that stands head-and-shoulders above the rest it’s Martin Murenbeeld -- his website is www.murenbeeld.com.

I’ll start with what you’re probably most interested in: his forecast for the gold price next year. On a probability-weighted basis Dr. Murenbeeld expects gold to average $430 an ounce in 2005 with a thirty percent probability of the average price being as high as $470.

Now, I realize that this forecast is a lot lower than what many hardcore gold-bugs would like to hear, but keep in mind that he forecast an average gold price of $405 an ounce for this year when he was at the Denver Gold Forum last year, and the actual average gold price so far this year has been just over $400 an ounce. For all practical purposes he was spot-on.

Also, remember that he is forecasting the average gold price for the year, not the highest, or lowest, or median gold price. So don’t despair about a forecast of ‘only $430 an ounce’ if you’re loaded up with gold and gold stocks; it’s a bullish forecast.

What is going to take gold higher?

Dr. Murenbeeld started with the well-established relationship between the gold price and the US dollar exchange rate, noting that the correlation between the gold price in US dollars and the dollar-euro exchange rate since 2000 is 0.92. According to Dr. Murenbeeld such a strong correlation between the dollar gold price and the dollar-euro exchange rate is unlikely to last. His thoughts are that something else, perhaps the oil price, will start to impact the gold price over and above currency exchange rates and that that will diminish the strong correlation we see now.

I agree that the strong correlation between the dollar-euro exchange rate and the gold price won’t last, although I think other currencies, such as the Chinese renminbi, or the Japanese yen, will become more important.

Nonetheless, Dr. Murenbeeld agrees that a weaker dollar means higher gold prices and a stronger dollar means lower gold prices. He also mentioned that the US current account deficit, which is near six percent of GDP, is undermining the dollar. For the dollar to remain stable in the face of the still growing current account deficit, enormous foreign capital inflows into the US are a necessity. At the moment foreigners have to invest about six hundred and fifty billion dollars a year in the US just to keep the dollar where it is.

The magnitude of these numbers tends to blunt the senses. How many people can actually wrap their heads around six hundred billion dollars? Furthermore, pundits have been belaboring debt and deficits for decades, and no catastrophe has developed yet, causing a numb, apathetic attitude towards prognostications of a falling dollar just because the US trade deficit is soaring.

But in his talk at the Cambridge House Investment Conference in Toronto last weekend Adrian Day (President of Global Strategic Management in Maryland) mentioned that to finance the current account deficit the United States needs to attract more than eighty percent of the world’s net export capital. Think about it, eighty percent of net capital being invested in the world has to be invested in the United States, or else the dollar will fall.

Now, back to Dr. Murenbeeld again. His models show that if the dollar does not decline, the US current account deficit could reach one trillion dollars in the next three to four years.

So, if the present current account deficit requires eighty percent of the world’s net export capital, then a trillion dollar deficit will require one hundred and twenty-five percent of the current available net export capital, which is obviously impossible. So either the dollar has to fall, or the world’s net available export capital has to grow by twenty-five percent over the next four years and make its way to the US in its entirety. I find it hard to believe the latter is going to happen, so my bet is on the former: a decline in the dollar.

As if this isn’t enough, Dr. Murenbeeld then went on to explain that the current US budget deficit is likely to expand dramatically as the demographic makeup of the US deteriorates.

Baby Boomers are heading for retirement. At the moment there are five workers for each retiree, but as the Baby Boomers retire that ratio will change so that eventually there will be only one worker for each retiree. Retirees need pensions and health care and the government will ultimately have to step in to cover these costs. That means a growing budget deficit, and that’s without considering an expansion of the War on Terrorism, which in my opinion is just going to escalate, and will also add to the budget deficit.

The soaring budget deficit will ultimately lead to higher taxes and higher inflation. Higher taxes hurt the economy and that could (should) ultimately hurt the dollar while higher inflation should also lead to a weaker dollar. And a weaker dollar means a higher gold price.

On the issue of central banks, Dr. Murenbeeld pointed out that the Asian central banks collectively hold almost two trillion dollars in foreign exchange reserves. Most of that is held in US dollars. Only about 1.3% of it is held in gold (1,930 tonnes).

He makes the point that gold should be used to diversify these reserve portfolios if only because there are so few alternatives to the dollar as a reserve asset. If both China and Japan were to adopt the fifteen percent rule of the European Central Bank they would have to buy 17,000 tonnes of gold. To put this in perspective, Europe collectively owns about 12,200 tonnes of gold and the United States has 8,410 tonnes of gold.

Europe plans to sell no more than 500 tonnes of gold per year for the next five years but Japan alone can buy 1,800 tonnes of gold a year just from the interest it receives on its foreign exchange reserves. And there are strong indications that Japan, China and other Asian countries are planning to add to their gold reserves.

Dr. Murenbeeld wrapped up the morning talk by noting that there had been two major readjustments of the gold price relative to US equities in the past one hundred years. The first was after the Great Depression in 1934 when the gold price was arbitrarily set to $35 an ounce, exactly five years after the stock market peak of 1929, and the second was when Nixon closed the Gold Window in 1971, five years after the stock market peaked in 1966.

The latest stock market bubble peaked in 2000. Could we be ready for another “major adjustment” next year? It’s certainly not impossible. Richard Russell has often expressed his opinion that the Dow Jones Industrial Average and the gold price will again be equal at some point. Both Dr. Murenbeeld and Richard Russell’s analyses of the gold price versus US equities suggest that gold could trade at several thousand dollars an ounce.

While Dr. Murenbeeld, in the end, left us with a more conservative average gold price forecast of $430 an ounce for next year, he had made it clear that the US economy, US equities and the US dollar are extremely vulnerable. And that bodes well for gold.

Paul van Eeden



To: ThirdEye who wrote (13240)10/11/2004 2:18:26 AM
From: mishedlo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
No Margin of Safety
Sub-prime lender New Century faces stiffer competition, risk of housing bubble

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To: ThirdEye who wrote (13240)10/11/2004 9:41:29 AM
From: mishedlo  Respond to of 116555
 
bush economy in context
angrybear.blogspot.com



To: ThirdEye who wrote (13240)10/11/2004 9:47:50 AM
From: mishedlo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
China approaching perfect conditions for yuan revaluation - govt economist
Monday, October 11, 2004 7:10:55 AM
afxpress.com

SHANGHAI (AFX) - The right time to appreciate the yuan is approaching as the interest rate gap with the US is narrowing and there is a trade deficit, He Fan, a government think tank economist, said in the Private Economy News

He, the assistant to the director of the Institute of World Economics and Politics, said in an interview with the daily newspaper, that he expects the government to appreciate the yuan by around 10 pct. "People aren't expecting a yuan appreciation as the US Federal Reserve keeps on raising interest rates. Some hot money has already left the country and there was also a trade deficit in the first half of this year," He said, adding, "the right time for revaluation is when people don't expect it." He said the government will likely revalue the yuan quickly, to avoid speculation. Strengthening the currency would also make imported oil much cheaper, He added

Crude oil futures closed above 53 usd a barrel on Friday, breaking another record in New York and logging a gain of more than 6 pct for the week. Last month, Premier Wen Jiabao said China will maintain the stability of the yuan exchange rate



To: ThirdEye who wrote (13240)10/11/2004 9:54:19 AM
From: mishedlo  Respond to of 116555
 
German govt worries growth will ease in 2005 - report
Sunday, October 10, 2004 4:41:21 PM
afxpress.com

FRANKFURT (AFX) - The finance ministry is starting to doubt the sustainability of the economic recovery, and fears Germany will breach EU deficit rules again next year, the Sueddeutsche Zeitung reported in an article from tomorrow's edition, citing sources. It said that within the coalition government, doubts are growing about the official forecast for 2.0 pct GDP growth in 2005.

Government finance and economic experts now expect only 1.8 pct growth next year, the paper said. It said the finance ministry now considers it almost impossible that Germany will be able to reduce its public deficit to 3 pct of GDP next year, as required by EU fiscal rules



To: ThirdEye who wrote (13240)10/11/2004 12:16:55 PM
From: mishedlo  Respond to of 116555
 
Heinz on gold COTs
Date: Mon Oct 11 2004 11:00
trotsky (mugwump, 6:30) ID#248269:
Copyright © 2002 trotsky/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
re. Droke's 'XAU in sweet spot' - as far as i'm concerned , the broadening consensus on this point worries me ( for instance, dollar bearishness is now utterly pervasive - and while i think it's the correct long term stance, chances are that these expectations will be foiled in the short term ) .
a detached look at the XAU daily chart says it has just turned down at well-worn resistance - it reached the resistance point exactly. at the same time, the public has thrown a lot of money into the Rydex pm fund, still below the peak values earlier this year, but only just.
now , if the XAU only pauses for a day or two, and then blasts through the resistance, it would be a good time for Droke to publish his article.
but that hasn't happened yet, and the probability of a short term correction is imo higher than that of an acceleration.
nb: it would also be the better thing to happen. overbought conditions need to be relieved. also keep in mind that the speculator net long position at the COMEX is now huge - not per se a 'must go down' sign, but certainly a red flag, and it'd also be better if it came back in somewhat.
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Heinz on "WANT"
Date: Mon Oct 11 2004 11:28
trotsky (Gourmet Dan, 8:44) ID#248269:
Copyright © 2002 trotsky/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
"Remember that the whole world has an interest in keeping the dollar up. The whole world. "
and further:
" No, the dollar will be managed, it's in everyone's best interest. "

it's true that no-one 'wants' the dollar to crash, and that everybody is busy 'managing' it ( e.g. China and Japan both buy huge amounts of dollars to keep it aloft ) . but it is wrong to assume that just because no-one 'wants' something to happen that it therefore won't happen.
as far as i can tell, no-one wanted to see crude oil at $53/bbl., yet there it is. no-one wanted the Nasdaq to crash by 80%, and yet it did.
the BoE not only didn't want the pound to crash vs. the mark in '92, it even squandered almost 70% of its then foreign exchange holdings in the attempt to defend it. and yet it crashed.
i could probably cite 100ds of similar examples, but the point i wish to make is made: it doesn't matter what everybody 'wants', or how powerful the entities involved are - the market will always prove bigger and trump them.
this is not to say that i'm favoring the 'dollar crash' scenario. i'm just saying that the fact that no-one wants it to happen is no guarantee whatsoever that it won't.



To: ThirdEye who wrote (13240)10/11/2004 1:28:36 PM
From: gpowell  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
Even if you completely overlook the rampant consumerism that is drilled into every citizen from an early age, no one is guaranteed a living or endless support beyond what they work for, except when politicians pander to such a notion.

Ah, the socialist groupthink - straight out of the communist manifesto. One must recast the core competency of a capitalist society, which is the satisfaction of wants and needs through the creation of mutual interdependent relations, into some form of hierarchical control. Hence, individual wants, which are the basis for forming all interdependent relationships, must be illegitimate.

The set of reasons people buy that beemer instead of the Ford or the Sub Zero instead of the fridgidaire are more related to why they increase their bets and roll the dice one more time in Vegas than they are to what the government tells them.

Or in other words, qualitative differences in products appeal to non-rational aspects of human behavior. Therefore, society as a whole will be better off by mandating the products that are produced, and therefore the specific needs that are satisfied.

It's the same set of complex psychological reasons that prevent people from selling when their stock goes down or that leads them to think they can get away with ignoring their investments.

Now this is a novel concept. But, given that people have different intertemporal preferences, who is to say why someone holds a stock as its price fluctuates. Given the long-run behavior of stock indices isn’t it a rational thing to hold through price fluctuations, and therefore, isn’t ignoring an investment with long-run growth potential exactly what one would want to do? Or are you simply saying that individuals would be better off by buying low and selling high? That would certainly be consistent with the near omniscient knowledge required to determine which human wants are legitimate.

People are not prepared to actually take their lives into their own hands

Here it is - the core belief of a socialist – a distrust of people.

If the society truly wanted to promote that ethic, they might be given the tools somewhere along the way.

And this statement marks the distinction between a Socialist and a Marxist. A Marxist would be preparing for the inevitable disintegration of capitalist society, while a Socialist advocates the saving of capitalism through hierarchical control of individuals and the production process, in what can only be termed industrial feudalism.

it's in the interest of business both to promote social structures that provide an educated workforce that can accept responsibility for some of the risk or life while also being quite happy with an endless supply of dependent and cheap labor. The world you long for was left behind a hundred years ago. Get used to it..

Nice that you conclude with a falsehood. An educated workforce increases their marginal product, thus increasing the returns to any given quantity of capital, which the capitalist expropriates a percentage for himself. And while it would be nice to imagine a world where labor is in no position to bargain, the reality is that labor has consistently received 70 percent of the returns on capital. Therefore, without one group needing to be in control of the other, it has been in the interest of capitalists to create incentives for the work force to increase their skill, just as it has been in the interest in labor to promote the activities of the capitalist. That is the capitalist world we live in, get used to it.