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To: Suma who wrote (21821)10/12/2004 10:58:38 AM
From: kodiak_bull  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23153
 
Suma,

Why does it seem that so many people's favorite political philosophers are Nazis? Why would you believe Herman Goering (right before he bit into a cyanide tablet) can tell you anything about democracy? I mean, to be basic about it, what the %#$@ would he know?

Kb



To: Suma who wrote (21821)10/12/2004 1:03:05 PM
From: Bruce L  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23153
 
Mary Lou:

Re: Herman Goering

KB's question is a good one.

Why would you - and others of your political persuasion - be so fascinated with the words spoken by a man who did so much evil and who faced death at the time he spoke them?

And I am relatively sure that - apart from his being a Nazi - you know next to nothing of him.

(The truth is that I too find him interesting. A fighter pilot and war hero in WWI, a bon vivant and epicure, the smartest of the Nazis (after Speer), he had so much going for him that I have always wondered WHY he hooked up with Hitler; the rest of the Nazis - again with the exception of Speer - were LOSERS in life.

So why Mary Lou?

I believe it is because you ASSOCIATE in your mind the Nazis with all of your opponents on the right; hence if a Nazi made a claim that YOU agreed with, all of us "righties" in some vicarious way would be estopped from denying it.

Is this the way your mind worked, Mary Lou? If not, please tell use us.

Of course the premise of this association is false. Fukuyama in his latest book, "State Building" writes that most thinkers today see Nazi Germany as one version of a "stream of development" which "tried to abolish the whole of civil society and subordinate the remaining atomized individuals to its own political ends." The other version of this same "stream of development" crumbled under the weight of its own contradictions when the Berlin Wall fell in 1989.

Bruce