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To: Lane3 who wrote (76874)	10/12/2004 12:37:40 PM
From: Oral Roberts	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793742

If you don't have confidence in your boss or in the case the Commander in Chief it makes perfect sense to head for the door. Why die for someone you don't trust.

To: Lane3 who wrote (76874)	10/12/2004 12:52:39 PM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793742

Remember karen, we have a VOLUNTEER Military....The finest in the world. They will stay the time they committed, and will follow orders as they do now. However, it depends on who is President how many new volunteers enter the service, and how many of current Military re-enlist. Looking at Senator Kerry's record for the last 35 years wouldn't enthuse me if I were going to enlist, that's for sure.

To: Lane3 who wrote (76874)	10/13/2004 12:23:01 AM
From: unclewest	Respond to of 793742

That's a fine testament to the patriotism of our military men and women, that they would decline to fight America's enemies because they don't respect the president. Let the Islamists win--that'll show 'em. You don't need to beat that old drum. Kerry has already proven that denigrating the military can be great sport for Democrats. Let's make this more personal. If Kerry wins, what sacrifices are you and your family willing to make?

To: Lane3 who wrote (76874)	10/13/2004 12:23:53 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793742

Gee, I thought only Republicans attacked the patriotism of others. I just knew those Talking Points Memos couldn't be trusted..... "That's a fine testament to the patriotism of our military men and women, that they would decline to fight America's enemies because they don't respect the president. Let the Islamists win--that'll show 'em." That's a load of hogwash. In fact, you could more fairly say Kerry "would decline to fight America's enemies because" of his longstanding anti-war beliefs; that the only solutions are his overwhelming belief in endless diplomacy & total acquiescence to the UN, where we must first pass a "global test" before force would be authorized,"because" Kerry "doesn't respect" the military or the government in foreign affairs. "Let's" appease "the Islamists"..... "--that'll show 'em." When those people volunteered to serve the country, they had faith in their Commander in Chief (CIC). If they came to believe that their CIC is unfit to lead them, why is that unpatriotic? Kerry has established he is anti-war & anti-military; a man who has publicly denigrated & slandered almost everyone who served in Vietnam with the most vicious lies. How can you blame those who serve from not wishing to be led by a man they have no reason to trust? A man who still refuses to acknowledge the horrific damage he did to the men & women who served honorably or to the POW's who suffered mightily thanks to Kerry's outrageous lies? What about Kerry's other horrific, politically motivated military votes, flip-flops & stated positions he has taken that weakened &/or endangered our troops (or would have had Kerry got his way)? Kerry is a potential CIC who would put our nations security in the hands of a thoroughly corrupt UN as part of his "global test" before he would authorize military action to defend our national security. He is a potential CIC who, due to a changing political climate, might fail to provide adequate funding for our troops after they have been placed in harms way. They have every right to choose to leave the military rather than serve someone they have absolutely no reason to believe or trust will protect & support them or our national security. And you question the patriotism "of our military men and women" under those circumstances?

To: Lane3 who wrote (76874)	10/13/2004 3:06:12 AM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793742

You're getting "heaped" on here Kholt......sorry......but At the very least, these poor souls have a chance at redemption. M Investigators unearthing mass grave in search of evidence against Saddam Hussein By Associated Press, 10/12/2004 20:29 HATRA, Iraq (AP) Investigators have begun unearthing a mass grave near this northern Iraqi village, uncovering more than 100 bodies and seeking evidence to use in a future trial of Saddam Hussein. The bodies, believed to be Kurds killed during Saddam's crackdown in 1987-88, are buried in nine trenches, according to Greg Kehoe, an American who works with the Iraqi Special Tribunal, which is preparing the trial of Saddam and his henchmen. Kehoe said his team has removed 120 bodies from a trench believed to contain as many as 300 bodies. He said that because of limited funds and resources, his team can excavate only one mass grave at a time. European teams who worked on Bosnian mass graves are not helping because of their concerns that Saddam could face the death penalty, he said. ''It is my personal opinion that this is a killing field,'' Kehoe told reporters during a visit to the site south of Mosul. ''Someone used this field on significant occasions over time to take bodies up there, and to take people up there and execute them.'' Kehoe said the bodies were apparently bulldozed into the graves. ''Unlike bodies that you've seen in many mass graves they look like cordwood all lined up,'' he said. ''That didn't happen here. These bodies were just pushed in.'' He said excavators found the body of a mother still clutching her baby. The infant was shot in the back of the head and the mother in the face. Kehoe said that most mass graves in Bosnia largely contain men of fighting age. Graves near Hatra included many women and children, he said. ''Genocide is the attempt to eliminate, limit or exterminate a religious, ethnic, national or racial group,'' he said. ''The Kurds are clearly a different nationality. So could it be considered genocide? It could be. Killing, ethnic cleansing, property relocations, all of those were used to try to limit the Kurdish population. What it is fundamentally is downright murder.'' Human rights organizations estimate that more than 300,000 people were killed during Saddam's 24-year rule, which ended when U.S.-led forces toppled his regime in 2003. Saddam is expected to stand trial for crimes against humanity and other offenses next year. No trial date has been set. boston.com