To: Amy J who wrote (206796 ) 10/16/2004 1:07:09 PM From: i-node Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1572033 I believe people are born gay or lesbian. Your post claims otherwise. Yet you don't back up your post with information you claim to have. On what do you base your assertion? Could you post a link to the science which supports your view? There is a story, which I posted here a year or two, which explains, anecdotally, my view -- but I'm really more interested in the science. There is NO SCIENCE to suggest that your conclusion is correct. There is a RECENT study that suggests that SOME PEOPLE MAY be born gay, but it stopped far short of being conclusive. I believe some people are born gay, and some aren't. I've known people who, in my mind, were gay well before they figured it out form themselves -- those people, perhaps, were "born gay". I've known others where it was undoubtedly a learned behavior. I've posted the entire story here years ago. I'll give you the overview, however. When I was younger, I knew a group of guys who were clearly heterosexual. I knew these people well, and the heterosexuality of these people was clear; none exhibited ANY of the characteristics that YOU AND I easily recognize in men who were "born gay". At a subsequent date, a single, overtly homosexual individual entered the group. I watched as numerous previously heterosexual men became homosexual, one by one. It was, indisputably, a "learned" behavior within this group. Later, two of the individuals' brothers became homosexual. This, by virtue of association with a single overtly gay man. Were some of these people "born gay"? I don't think so, but perhaps one was. Not ALL of them, however. That's my view based on this instance -- obviously, not a statistically significant finding. However, there NO SCIENCE to suggest that homosexuality is a genetically determined behavior.