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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (78092)	10/16/2004 9:31:11 AM
From: Captain Jack	Respond to of 793842

ROFLMAO! You worry about Bush' record when the Dems are running a person without a questionable military or post military record? Itb is known Kerry does not deserve most medals and acted in a manner that could see him brought up on serious charges that are indisputable.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (78092)	10/16/2004 10:49:59 AM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793842

All they would have to do is find out the unit he was assigned to for those six months while he served in the Alabama National Guards. Mary, Here is the problem. You have been tricked into believing that because a military member is assigned somewhere, they are required to physically report for duty there. That is occasionally not true for active duty folks. It is often not true for NG and Reservists especially when they move. Please read the last three sentences again before looking at the rest of this post. I posted this true example some time ago. I was on continuous active duty from Feb 62 through Mar 82. While a Captain on active duty, I was assigned to Ft Benjamin Harrison, Indiana from July 1976 through June 1977. I never went to Ft Benjamin Harrison then and still have not. I signed into my unit over the phone. I submitted pay inquiries to collect monthly pay, travel pay and expenses over the phone. When I got my next overseas assignment directly from the Pentagon, the orders were mailed to me in Louisiana. I called my unit and requested advanced travel funds which they promptly mailed to me. Then I signed myself out of the Ft Benjamin Harrison unit over the phone. I never met anyone from Ft Benjamin Harrison and they never saw me. During that 11 months of active duty, I was not required to physically report to any military installation anywhere for any reason, and I did not. I was only required to call in twice in that year. Once to report for duty and once to state that I was leaving the unit to go to my next duty station. I never took my annual physical that was required in my birth month, February. I missed two required dental exams. I also missed all required annual, semi-annual, quarterly and monthly mandatory training for an Infantry and Special Forces officer. 18 months after missing all that, I was promoted to Major. My activity during my lost, missing and "AWOL" year are a key reason for that promotion. And that year did count for retirement. There are no records of my attending training, getting a physical, or drinking beer at Ft Benjamin Harrison or anywhere else that year. How could there be? Those records are not missing. They never existed. Nobody at Ft Benjamin Harrison can vouch for me being there, or anywhere else. You can send reporters to question every officer who worked in my unit at Benjamin Harrison that year. Each and everyone of them will swear they never saw me and be correct. At best, you will find a coupla military clerks who took my phone calls. But that is only if you are willing to believe they recall the brief conversation from nearly 30 years ago. There are many legitimate reasons for a military member not to have to report to a base or post or military unit. Mine was to attend a University for two semesters. GWB's reasons have been explained ad nauseum on this thread to include statements from his former commanders. I had one other similar experience. In September 1981, a medical board at Letterman Army Medical Center determined I was unfit for further combat duty due to wounds and injuries received. I was instructed to go home and report back on March 1, 1982 for discharge and retirement. I drew full pay and allowances for that period too. During that 5+ months, I had no military requirements and only had to call in if I traveled more than 300 miles from home. I can provide you with contact information of several SF Reservists who lost their slot when they moved to a new job in a new town, and then opted to no longer to participate in Reserve meetings. It is a totally legitimate and routine way for Reservists and NG members to do their military business while they simultaneously manage their civilian careers. You have been smoked by the DNC, and you inhaled deeply. The fact that you choose to not accept the legitimate explanation and statements from GW's former commanders does not make them false. Mary, If you are interested in the nominees' military service. here is the real reality check. John Kerry certainly had some Reserve Service meeting requirements. Yet his Reserve Service records from 1970 to 1978 have never been released. In fact, many of his service records from 1966 - 1970 have also not been released. What's with that? Was Lt John Kerry AWOL from his US Navy unit while conferring with the enemy in Paris? If Kerry missed a monthly reserve meeting while conducting unauthorized meetings with the enemy he was AWOL. Treason is not considered a legitimate activity. Nor is it an excuse to be absent from your assigned military unit. More on that in two days. unclewest

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (78092)	10/16/2004 7:00:31 PM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 793842

If you had bothered to read the articles I linked to you, it would ber painfully obvious that Bush & others have provided overwhelming documentary & testimonial evidence to clearly establish that Bush deserved his Honorable Discharge. Every single fabricated allegation against Bush's NG service has been thoroughly discredited. President Bush has no control over the fact that the MSM intentionally ignores all the evidence that proves Bush fulfilled his obligation, that he was not given special treatment to avoid the draft or that he had unexplained "gaps" in his NG time. That is beyond Bush's control. Likewise, Bush cannot stop Kerry, the DNC & Michale Moore from falsely raising the same thoroughly discredited allegations over & over to the glee of the MSM. None of this changes the irrefutable fact that the evidence clearly establishes that Bush served honorably & the MSM & the lunatic left are willing to tell any lie to create false impressions of the POTUS. Ö¿Ö