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To: Ilaine who wrote (79179)	10/20/2004 11:02:17 AM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793964

Before Roe v. Wade, we lived in a theocracy, but Roe v. Wade made it go away. And if the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, or if a Constitutional amendment is passed that gets rid of Roe v. Wade, we will live in a theocracy again. Roe v. Wade, Gay marriage, stem cell research, theory of evolution are the opening salvo. We are against global testing to get permission from other countries to do things but we are for litmus testing against judges that will turn us into a theocracy. We want to live in a democracy the way the country was founded (separation of church and state). Religion can thrive in a democracy. Democracy can not thrive in a theocracy.

To: Ilaine who wrote (79179)	10/20/2004 11:57:55 AM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793964

Before Roe v. Wade, we lived in a theocracy, but Roe v. Wade made it go away. And if the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, or if a Constitutional amendment is passed that gets rid of Roe v. Wade, we will live in a theocracy again. Say what? You forget that this is a country in which school prayers are not allowed, where a slab of marble into which the 10 Commandments were printed was taken out of a courthouse, etc., etc., ad nauseum. Heck, I've even handled a case against the ACLU in which some genuine would-be theocrats had their heads judicially handed to them, as I advised them would happen. The continued vitality of Roe v. Wade has nothing to do with whether we live under a theocracy. theocracy \Theoc"racy\, n. [Gr. ?; ? God + ? to be strong, to rule, fr. ? strength: cf. F. th['e]ocratie. See Theism, and cf. Democracy.] 1. Government of a state by the immediate direction or administration of God; hence, the exercise of political authority by priests as representing the Deity. 2. The state thus governed, as the Hebrew commonwealth before it became a kingdom. dictionary.reference.com If you wish to see a genuine theocracy in action, look at the way Iran is governed by the Mad Mullahs. Even in the unlikely event a constitutional amendment is enacted that overrules R. v. W, we will be a far cry from being ruled by priests, reverends, ministers, etc. A theocracy requires that they take over the reins of government and that the exercise the power of the state in furtherance of religious principles, something which will never happen, certainly not as a result of the overruling of a single case, regardless of its religious significance.