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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (18464)	10/22/2004 11:22:41 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 28931

"I challenge you again to produce one example where innocent people are in Hell. You can't because there aren't any" I mentioned millions of examples of the most compelling kind ( Message 20673608 )but you stupidly ignore them as if that makes them go away. That is the mental ploy of an extremely young child: If they cover their eyes it is not there. You pretend that genocide is good and that wholesale murder is good, and that subsequent eternal torture is good. If it were not so, then it would follow that God does both Good AND evil. Leaving aside the fact that the bible states this (as one of the thousands of absurd contradictions contained therein)...in terms of our discussion, for you to assert such an absurdity would confirm your entire sheep walk as a colossal joke. Tell me of some innocent people who went to heaven? Tell me, please. If the guilty are going to heaven and groups of people are being sent to eternal torture, then such is certainly not just or good in the eyes of any decent human being. The bible says that Jesus went to Hell--but came back. The bible also claims that Jesus sometimes observes (and perhaps participates) in the torture of Hellions. What a JOKE! "for all flesh had corrupted their way upon the earth" Oh, my! One day He figured out that there was only one innocent person left so it was time to murder all his children! Yesterday He was unsure! Is this thing going to work?! But suddenly on the morrow after a bad breakfast...AW! To Hell with it! I will murder all these bastards and keep a few freaks around and see if it will work. It is all so damn random. I wonder what will happen! Oh, wait. Now I feel like Hell. I wish I hadn't done that. I better put a rainbow in the sky! I will change the nature of light so that it refracts! HA! "God destroyed the People for good reason" AFTER BIRTH ADULT abortion! You gotta love such a reason! "but express outrage at God punishing guilty people" Are you to dumb to follow the discussion? I expressed no outrage at God punishing guilty people. I expressed disgust at the concept that God punishes innocent people and that he murders on the basis of race, culture, color, tribe, and other such prejudicial and unjust premises...and that He then acts in a manner that is barbaric and psychotic in the eyes of any decent human being--to wit, he TORTURES people for eternity. "Your first statement about buying salvation may apply to some but certainly not the vast majority of Christians" No. It applies to ALL of them. If they were acting independent of such a notion there would be no motive for preaching insane doctrines and bizarre absurdities and cruelties. "Now I know you have trouble with definitions" I don't, so you are wrong yet again. The fact is that the bible divides people into saved and unsaved. And which camp you are in depends on who you grovel before. "Have you ever done anything wrong? Would God be justified if He held you accountable for your actions?" My friends and family and society all hold me responsible for my actions. Considering that all of these mortals are less compassionate and loving and just than God...I would expect a sane, rational, just, and good God to deal less harshly with me than have they. To suggest that eternal torture is appropriate for me as "accountability" and that my "accountability" ought to deserve the same malicious punishment as the "accountability" of a serial killer--THAT is to betray your complete ignorance of the concept of justice and accountability. It is the kind of stupidity that cannot find anything incongruous about a "God" who murders 42 kids for calling somebody "baldy", while blessing an old pervert who offers his daughter for gang rape and then commits incest with both of them. Your "logic" is so pathetic that it separates you from all that is sane or decent in humanity. Do you have a brain, Greg or e?? What in the Hell is the matter with you??