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To: Michael Watkins who wrote (148965)	10/25/2004 4:08:33 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Respond to of 281500

I guess they should know... ST Bush extended clan urges against his re-election WASHINGTON (AFP) - A renegade wing of the extended George W. Bush political clan is lobbying actively for his defeat at the polls in November's presidential election, and formed a group, "Bush Relatives for Kerry," to ensure that happens. "As the election approaches, we feel it is our responsibility to speak out about why we are voting for John Kerry (news - web sites), and to do our small part to help America heal from the sickness it has suffered since George Bush (news - web sites) was appointed president in 2000," the group says on its website www.BushRelativesforKerry.com. The group is founded by sisters Tracy Cannon and Hilary House, cousins of the president. "The very thing that our president, my cousin, criticizes (Kerry) for is exactly what makes him a natural leader, the ability to see when an error has been made and to be willing to do whatever it takes to fix it, wrote Cannon, one of several members of the family to endorse Kerry on the website. "The overwhelming arrogance and knee jerk mentality that has consumed our government as of late will lead only to further mayhem and more rash decisions. It must stop." House added: "George W. Bush is a man of limited vision and seemingly little compassion ... I have always known that John Kerry has the greater good of not only our country, but the world as a whole in mind." "George W. Bush's grandfather and my grandmother were brother and sister," she continued. "It makes me sad that I cannot with good conscience vote for a member of my family ... however today the lives of so many people hang in the balance, that my role as an American is far more important than that of a cousin."

To: Michael Watkins who wrote (148965)	10/25/2004 5:27:50 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 281500

The bottom line is that they didn't lie, they had some bad intelligence - along with the ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD. Saddam's own cabinet thought he had WMDs! I'm still waiting for you to find the one truth teller who claimed pre 2003 that Saddam had no WMDs. Diversions into minor issues about this detail or that, aluminum tubes or whatever, where you can find experts who said one thing & I can find experts who said the other, do not change the big picture. The big picture was, every sane person was sure that Saddam had WMDs. With his track record and 4 years of no inspections, you'd have to be crazy not to have thought so. Fact is, before 2003, even the anti-war marchers were claiming we shouldn't go to war because Saddam was going to gas US troops by the thousand. Nobody lied when they said that Saddam had WMD. Bush did not lie. If the best available evidence convinces you to believe something, it's not a lie to state your beliefs. Kerry, on the other hand, has a nasty pattern of playing fast and loose with the truth to puff himself up. First it was Christmas in Cambodia, now it's his purported meeting with all the UN Security Council member, which most of them deny. Clearly when his dying mother warned him about "integrity, integrity, integrity" she had good reason to be worried...