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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (208553)10/25/2004 6:07:41 PM
From: TigerPaw  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574852
 
battle-hardened army would turn Iraq into the "mother of all battles"

No,
Those who thought about the invasion for more than five minutes knew that Iraq was weak, much weaker than it was for the first Bush war. I think it was generally thought that there would be more casulties than there were, mostly civilian, but nobody thought Saddam was any kind of real threat. That's why the war didn't have be fought right then.

TP



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (208553)10/25/2004 6:33:40 PM
From: TigerPaw  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574852
 
I remember all of the anti-war marches before the first Gulf War
So do I, I went to one at the capital the night the green tracers were flying on CNN, but didn't march, I just listened to what they had to say. There was no more than 200 participants and they dispersed within a few hours.

The exact same predictions were made right before Dubya went in
ccmep.org
They were nothing alike.

I wonder if you really remember these events, or only remember what some commentator like Limbaugh said you should remember about the events. I can't believe that you don't know by now that those faux news rants are mostly falsehoods.

TP



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (208553)10/26/2004 1:41:52 AM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1574852
 
TP, I remember all of the anti-war marches before the first Gulf War, that Saddam's battle-hardened army would turn Iraq into the "mother of all battles" and turn it into a quagmire.

If there were marches before Gulf I, they were small. Nearly 500k amassed in London for just one march before the second Iraqi war........and there were major marches all over the world.

The world's reaction to the two wars was vastly different so I wonder where you are getting your POV.

The exact same predictions were made right before Dubya went in. Once again, those predictions turned out to be wrong, except for the parts about the lack of WMD and the difficulty of winning the peace.

You make it seem like they are minor events. They are not. They are huge.

You're pretending that the anti-war movement was right all along, when the truth is that they're no more useful than a broken clock. Hence the second-guessing.

The anti war movement was right. There was no need for second guessing...........many anti war advocates had it right before the war. It seems the only people who didn't were the neocons who at the time were calling the anti war advocates stupid and uninformed.

ted