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To: American Spirit who wrote (3091)10/27/2004 8:26:57 AM
From: Proud_Infidel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3515
 
The kids aren't so stupid after all.....from a local PA newspaper:

Most Lehigh Valley teens back Bush in mock presidential elections
Nationwide schools poll places Kerry behind by 10 percent.

By Genevieve Marshall
Of The Morning Call

President Bush's Christian beliefs, experience running the country and use of force against Saddam Hussein are what swayed Alexander Haller to vote for him Tuesday.

A week before his parents will go to the polls, 14-year-old Alexander cast his vote in a mock election at Bethlehem's Liberty High School, where he is a freshman.

Alexander researched Bush's domestic policy for a debate in history class to defend the president's stances on gay marriage, abortion and stem-cell research.

''My father thinks Bush is an idiot,'' said Alexander, whose class was swayed by his argument and chose Bush in a straw poll. ''Yeah, he's an idiot, but Kerry's worse. He's too wishy-washy.''

Whether Alexander's classmates agree won't be made public until this morning, when Principal Bill Burkhardt reads the results over the intercom.

There is, however, a strong possibility it could go Kerry's way.

Rick Lund, a social studies teacher, has organized mock elections at Bethlehem schools for 30 years, but this is the first time he used an Internet-based program to tally the results.

Students voted on six new laptop computers in the auditorium Tuesday. A seventh silver computer plugged into an outlet on the auditorium stage continuously updated the results.

As of 9:15 a.m., Kerry was whomping Bush with 70 percent of the vote.

Yet, if mock elections at other area high schools and national polls of young voters are an indication of the national vote, Bush may prevail even in a Democratic stronghold like Bethlehem.

Nazareth Area High School students also voted Tuesday and overwhelmingly supported Bush — 59 percent, or 676 votes, to Kerry's 38 percent, or 432 votes.

Pen Argyl High School students also picked Bush, who received 242 votes to Kerry's 215.

The local mock elections so far mirror a national trend. If high school students were to choose the next president, Bush would serve a second term, at least according to a nationwide Channel One

More area high schools are holding mock elections next week. Parkland and Allen high schools in Lehigh County will poll students Monday, as will Souderton High School, where students will use authentic voting machines on loan from the Montgomery County Election Board. Emmaus High School students will vote Tuesday.

Although the majority of Lehigh Valley schools holding mock elections plan to use old-fashioned paper ballots, computerized voting is becoming more popular — just as it is in national elections.

Nazareth students voted online Tuesday, as will Bangor Area High School students on Election Day.

Easton six laptops and business teacher Rebecca Wetzel found a student to write the Web-based program that counted the votes.

Jeff Deschler, a 16-year-old senior, was that student. He shrugged off the accomplishment, saying that he set up the program in one day.

Before he ran to his honors chemistry class, Deschler checked the latest results.

''So far the Democrats are winning by a wide margin,'' said Deschler, who personally voted a split ticket — Kerry for president, and Republicans Arlen Specter for senator and Charlie Dent in the 15th Congressional District.

Lund said he kept the tally from other students out of concern it would influence their choices.

''It's like in a national election; you don't want people to know their candidate is in the lead or they won't get off their butts to vote,'' said Lund, who estimated 2,000 Liberty students would vote before the polls closed at 3 p.m. ''Or they'll jump on the bandwagon and vote for whoever seems more popular.''

In an informal exit poll, the most popular candidate at Liberty was clearly Kerry.

Jessica Loy, an 18-year-old senior whose vote will count next Tuesday, voted a straight Democratic ticket.

''I like that Kerry says he'll raise the minimum wage,'' said Loy, who earns minimum wage working in dining services at Moravian College.

Senior Bryan Rodriguez, also 18, will vote for Kerry on Election Day as he did in the mock election.

In the two presidential debates he watched, ''Kerry seemed more confident,'' Rodriguez said. ''I want to see what he'll do in office.''

Though he picked Democrats Joe Hoeffel for Senate and Joe Driscoll for U.S. representative, Rodriguez admitted he knows little about any candidates outside of the presidential race. Neither does Loy.

Don Midway, chairman of Liberty's social studies department, said teenagers are no different than adults in that they care more about who will be the next president than their next congressman.

''They forget that the local candidates are the ones who have the most impact on their lives,'' Midway said. ''But what are you going to do? It's good to see them excited about any election.''

Reporters Arlene Martinez and Tom Coombe contributed to this story.

mcall.com



To: American Spirit who wrote (3091)10/27/2004 11:09:02 AM
From: JakeStraw  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3515
 
Inmates 'Have A Plan' To Run The Asylum

October 20, 2004



While the people of Afghanistan are celebrating their first democratic election and the Iraqis are taking their first steps to democracy, the great thinkers in the Democratic Party are still polishing up their conspiracy theories about the war to liberate Iraq.

There's no consensus position, but the Democrats are pretty sure the real reason we went to Iraq was one of the following:

Bush family's connections to the Saudis,
Halliburton,
the Carlyle Group,
something about the Texas Rangers needing more left-handed pitching,
the neoconservatives,
the Straussians,
oil,
the Jews,
oily Jews.

This may be the first time in American history that the decisional calculus for many voters will be: Do I really want to throw my hat in with these crazy people?

John Kerry has called the war with Iraq "a huge mistake, a catastrophic mistake." He said it was no excuse that "Saddam might have done it 10 years from now" – use weapons of mass destruction against Americans, apparently. (New Kerry campaign slogan: "Let Radical Islamic Iraq Be Radical Islamic Iraq!")

The Democrats want Saddam back. I suppose it was only a matter of time for the party that also welcomed back Marion Barry, Ted Kennedy, Barney Frank, Al Sharpton, Frank Lautenberg, Hillary Clinton, etc., etc.

When Bush pointed out that Saddam would still be in power if Kerry were president, Kerry contradicted him, but provided no theory of how Saddam would be gone. Instead, he simply said: "Not necessarily be in power" – and then trailed off into a long-winded explanation of one of those positions on which he's "always been consistent." Maybe Saddam would still be in power – but there would have been an extremely effective and persistent opposition led by brave media pundits!

Speaking of which, where are the feminists on war with Iraq? Cameron Diaz' statement about Bush's policies – "if you think rape should be legal, then don't vote" – would have been perfectly true had she been speaking to an audience in Iraq. These people think it is constructive rape to have sex with your husband. America has just gone to war against a regime for which rape – not date rape, or pseudo-rape, or virtual rape, but real rape – was part of the official policy, and they're against regime-change.

Among his other pointless carping about the war in Iraq, Kerry keeps claiming the military is overextended. His supporters claim Bush has a secret plan to bring back the draft. Whatever happened to all those gays who wanted to join the military? We haven't heard a peep out of them lately. How about rounding up a "Coalition of the Fabulous," Sen. Kerry? And what does his good pal Mary Cheney tell him about that?

With the election a few weeks away, the two main reasons Kerry has settled on for why you should vote for him are: (1) Dick Cheney has a lesbian daughter, and (2) Halliburton!

The highlight of the debates for Moveon.org members came whenever Edwards or Kerry managed to work "Halliburton!" into an answer. Kerry explained he voted against the $87 billion for the troops in Iraq because, "I didn't want to give a slush fund to Halliburton." (Nor equipment to the troops, apparently.) This week, he also tied Halliburton to the flu-shot shortage, telling a Florida audience, "If Halliburton made flu shots, there would be more flu here than oranges."

Edwards raised the Democrats' brilliant "Halliburton!" point, saying: "While [Cheney] was CEO of Halliburton, they paid millions of dollars in fines for providing false information on their company – just like Enron and Ken Lay." Not only that, but Bush and Cheney have offices – just like Enron and Ken Lay. They have employees – just like Enron and Ken Lay. They pay their employees – just like Enron and Ken Lay.

The Party of Ideas is now equating Halliburton with Enron. The only surprise is that Edwards didn't throw in Watergate and Abscam just for good measure.

As even the New York Times admitted the day after the vice presidential debate, "[T]here is no evidence Mr. Cheney has pulled strings on Halliburton's behalf" and "The independent General Accountability Office concluded that Halliburton was the only company that could have provided the services the Army needed at the outset of the war."

Most amazingly, the Democrats have the chutzpah to complain that Bush claimed he was a "uniter" and yet(!), "have you ever seen America more divided?" – as the Democrats' Demosthenes Edwards put it.

This from a candidate (I almost said a "man") whose campaign falsely accused the president of stealing an election, barring a million black voters from the polls, and sending a thousand American soldiers to their deaths just for oil.

Coincidentally, the very day of the vice presidential debate, a gun was fired into a Bush-Cheney campaign office in Bearden, Tenn. – one of a series of violent attacks on Republican offices around the country. (You can tell it was Democrats firing those guns because none of the shots ever hit anything.)

Also that day, a group of liberal loonies stormed a Bush-Cheney office in Orlando, Fla., and ransacked the place. A few weeks earlier, a 62-year-old woman in Manhattan was beaten with a cane by an 86-year-old woman for carrying a Bush-Cheney sign.

On the basis of their own insane, violent behavior toward Republicans, Democrats demand to be put in the White House – so the violence will stop. At this rate, it's only a matter of time before the Kerry campaign announces that anti-Bush insurgents control most of the Bush-Cheney 2004 headquarters, and that the sooner the U.S. pulls out of those quagmires the better.

If only we could get Democrats to show a little of that manly anger toward the terrorists, maybe Americans would be able to trust them with national security