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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: PROLIFE who wrote (652180)	10/27/2004 1:01:31 PM
From: Land Shark	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

This guy is FOS (Glassman)... The fact is that the Al QaQaa facility's amo was under supervision by the IAEA. The explosives were tagged and being monitored. Now that Shrub illegally invaded Iraq, thanks to his blundering and lack of planning, the amo is gone, picked by looters who might've sold it to insurgents at a premium. This is the issue that the US army had custody of the site and blew it big time. Bush should go down on this alone. 60 Minutes will have lots of good material for Sunday. I'm going to tune in for sure.

To: PROLIFE who wrote (652180)	10/27/2004 1:41:57 PM
From: pompsander	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

Here's the problem with the weapons issue....even given the best possible spin to the GWB side of things. 1. One of the most recently given reasons for going into IRAQ was that we wanted to keep "weapons out of the hands of terrorists". 2. The weapons in question were under the control of Saddam's military...they were inventoried, tracked and stamped by the UN. We knew what existed and where it was. They were not in the hands of terrorists, nor were they going to be...ever...unless you buy into the idea that Saddam was providing such weapons to terrorists....no substantiation for this in any reports or studies....only connection between Saddam and terrorists was "not operational". 3. U.N. weapons inspectors on the ground saw the stuff in January, properly stored and catalogued. So, if we don't invade Iraq, that is how things would have stayed. 4. But then everything changed. We ordered out the weapons inspectors. Chain of control disrupted. 5. When it is clear U.S. is coming in, come what may, something happens to the material. Whether before our troops reach the site or after....there is a result that would not have happened otherwise. Which is... 6. The stuff is lost, gone...unaccounted for. Whereabouts unknown. GWB says it is not his fault. Things happen in war. But at some point you have to say what if we had given the inspectors more time? Invaded later or not at all? Tightened the noose in other ways? Would we have the same result as we have today? Would the weapons be in the hands of "terrorists" or insurgents, probably being used against our troops and who knows where else? So,