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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (149448)	10/27/2004 6:52:47 PM
From: carranza2	Respond to of 281500

I would read the book you suggested along with Serge Trifkovic's book, The Sword of the Prophet, which argues that Islam is inherently imperialistic and violent, and ask myself: Who makes the better arguments? amazon.com Trifkovic's book is a polemic, but a well researched one. I see Islam as struggling with itself, a moderate faction against a Jihadist one. The present historical trend unfortunately seems to favor the Jihadists as Islam appears to be going through a fundamentalist/conservative revival probably fueled by the factors set forth in the book you recommend.

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (149448)	10/28/2004 1:31:34 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

You will see that from their perspective, US has long been harming them before they had to take the extreme measures. I might be interested in their perspective as a matter of academic curiosity or to help understand how to defeat them, but I don't see it as being relevant to this particular discussion. I don't see an assertion of their perspective as being a refutation of my point that "Al Qaida made themselves our enemy. We didn't go hunting for them until they came after us." The perspective that asserts we were waging war against Al-Qaida before 9/11, or that we were or are waging war against Islam, or against Arabs is simply an inaccurate perspective. Tim