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To: pgerassi who wrote (138215)	10/30/2004 1:04:31 AM
From: Elmer Phud	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Evidently you can't follow the links to download the wafer cost calculator. Hint, its an excel spreadsheet! Daaah.... Earth to Pete.... Earth to Pete.... I quoted you numbers from that spreadsheet.... But you just proved how functionally disabled you are when you are faced with facts not to your liking. Your calculator assumed 30K WPW and a 130nm 6 metal layer copper process. Funny, I didn't think Dothan used that one. Prescott, according to sandpile.org uses a 90nm 7 layer metal with copper, low K dielectrics, high K gates and strained silicon. The $2860 per wafer doesn't come out in a 5-10K WPW fab on that higher cost process. That also assume high usage, which Intel did say they cut back this quarter (selective memory disorder problem as well). Intel does say that their 300mm fabs cost $4 to 5 billion (from various business news sites, I see no need to prove yet again that you can't follow links given your response above). Pete First, this is absurd. Those fabs don't cost anywheres near that much and I know you won't produce a link, you can't. Second, my calculator? I've linked to it in the past but I didn't reference it for this discussion, I_Banker did. I pointed out that it was a different product (stepping) that is out of production, wrong die size and wafer size. Third and most important, it has been pointed out to you several times that this discussion was based on the premis that Intel would be flooding the market with cheap parts, "Intel will simply come in and undercut (even at a loss)". I know that goes in one ear and out the other but try to grasp it. It's the basis of this discussion and if you want to change the rules then don't expect me to play along.