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To: tejek who wrote (209473)	10/30/2004 7:41:04 PM
From: steve harris	Respond to of 1576601

Rove did it teddy! drudgereport.com

To: tejek who wrote (209473)	10/31/2004 12:52:14 AM
From: brian1501	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576601

I have not read everything OBL has said but I have never seen where he thinks we are weak. Here you go: bostonphoenix.com You won’t find the names Osama Bin Laden or Mohammed Atef in Black Hawk Down. But intelligence officials say that Bin Laden’s key operative, Atef, played a vital role in training the warring gangs that battled American Delta Force and Ranger units on that October 1993 day. Those forces were engaged in exactly the kind of work that will be required of American forces as they scour Afghanistan in search of Bin Laden. That’s not all. Somalia itself threatens to be in the news soon. Bush-administration officials say Somalia, with its pro-terrorist training camps, is a likely candidate for post-Afghanistan military action. Some even believe Bin Laden may try to flee to Somalia for safety. The Battle of Mogadishu itself represented a turning point in Bin Laden’s view of the United States. Bin Laden saw Mogadishu, with the sight of the corpses of dead servicemen being dragged through the streets, as symbolizing American cowardice. Here are Bin Laden’s comments about Somalia in a 1997 interview with Peter Arnett, then of CNN: " The US government went there with great pride and stayed there for some time with a strong media presence wanting to frighten people that it is the greatest power on earth, " Bin Laden declared. " With Allah’s grace, Muslims over there cooperated with some Arab ‘Mujahideen’ who were in Afghanistan. They participated with their brothers in Somalia against the American occupation troops and killed large numbers of them... The American troops left after achieving nothing. They left after claiming that they were the largest power on earth...The Americans ran away from those fighters who fought and killed them, while the latter were still there. " Brian

To: tejek who wrote (209473)	10/31/2004 1:29:55 AM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576601

And even if he did see us as weak, how weak is a nation sitting on the kind of arsenal we have? A stockpile of weapons is not enough to make a country powerful. Those weapons need to be used by people, and directed by leaders with some willingness to stay the course even when things get rough. In Lebanon and in Somalia we cut and ran. In response to pre 9/11 attacks we did nothing or did very little. Strength is not just in the weapon, or even in the skill that it is wielded but also in determination. I think we have the determination at least once we are sufficiently roused (by something like 9/11 or Pearl Harbor) but some of our enemies probably did not and a smaller number might still have strong doubts. Tim