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To: Win Smith who wrote (150038)	10/30/2004 11:13:27 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Respond to of 281500

pipa.org The key findings were: 1. Iraq, WMD, and al Qaeda A large majority of Bush supporters believe that before the war Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or a major program for building them. A substantial majority of Bush supporters assume that most experts believe Iraq had WMD and that this was the conclusion of the recently released report by Charles Duelfer. A large majority of Bush supporters believes that Iraq was providing substantial support to al Qaeda and that clear evidence of this support has been found. A large majority believes that most experts also have this view, and a substantial majority believe that this was the conclusion of the 9/11 Commission. Large majorities of Kerry supporters believe the opposite on all these points. .......................................................3 2. What the Bush Administration is Saying About Pre-War Iraq Large majorities of Bush and Kerry supporters agree that the Bush administration is saying that Iraq had WMD and was providing substantial support to al Qaeda. In regard to WMD, these majorities are growing.........................................................................................................................................................6 The Separate Realities of Bush and Kerry Supporters October 21, 2004 3. The Decision to Go to War Majorities of Bush supporters and Kerry supporters agree that if Iraq did not have WMD or was not providing support to al Qaeda, the US should not have gone to war with Iraq.............................................7 4. World Public Opinion on the Iraq War and George Bush’s Reelection Only three in ten Bush supporters believe that the majority of people in the world oppose the US going to war with Iraq, while an overwhelming majority of Kerry supporters have this view. A majority of Bush supporters assume that the majority of people in the world would like to see Bush reelected, while a large majority of Kerry supporters believe the opposite. Bush supporters also lean toward overestimating support in Islamic countries for US-led efforts to fight terrorism, while Kerry supporters do not ..............8 5. Candidates’ Foreign Policy Positions Majorities of Bush supporters misperceive his positions on a range of foreign policy issues. In particular they assume he supports multilateral approaches and addressing global warming when he has taken strong contrary positions on issues such as the International Criminal court and the Kyoto Agreement. A majority of Kerry supporters have accurate perceptions of Kerry positions on the same issues. ...............10 Analysis.........................................................................................................................................12 The only logical conclusion then is that the majority of Bush supporters are ignorant dupes who would not be voting for him if they had their facts right...if it was not so sad, it would have been very funny.

To: Win Smith who wrote (150038)	11/1/2004 10:33:35 PM
From: Sdgla	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Well then, in my world of conventional reality we have a president who drew a line in the sand and said your either with us or against us. He became a hero of mine when he saw the only way to attack the terrorist threat was to bring freedom to a people who had none and acted on that premise. I do not dig war so your guess was incorrect. I also believe that war in any form is messy and it is good to have a president with the conviction to lead in the face of the incredible barage of daily main stream media attacks. I think under your guidelines Lincoln would have folded up his tent and went home.