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To: LindyBill who wrote (84328)11/6/2004 12:36:21 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793805
 
We will hear a lot more about this.

Other Networks' Election Loss Is Fox News's Big Gain

By Lisa de Moraes
WaPo
Thursday, November 4, 2004; Page C07

A record number of voters may have turned out for the presidential election Tuesday, but they didn't translate to record audiences for the broadcast networks' election night coverage.

On the other hand, Tuesday was a very good night for Fox News Channel, which logged its biggest prime-time audience ever.

Collectively, the broadcast networks fumbled about 8 million of the viewers who had watched their prime time on election night in 2000. Ironically, the only broadcast network that can boast an increase is Fox, which doesn't even have a news division. Fox broadcast network clocked an average of 4.7 million viewers from 8 to 10 p.m. Tuesday with election coverage provided by Fox News Channel and helmed by Shepard Smith. (Fox News Channel's own coverage was helmed by Brit Hume.)

An average of 15.2 million people watched Tom Brokaw's last presidential election in the NBC anchor chair during prime time, Nielsen Media Research reports. In 2000, NBC had averaged more than 18 million viewers in prime time on election night.

Another 9.5 million prime-time viewers watched what might just turn out to be Dan Rather's last presidential election in the CBS anchor chair -- depending on how that independent investigation into the botched "60 Minutes" story shakes out. Four years ago, CBS News nabbed 13 million viewers with its prime-time coverage of the Bush-Gore voting debacle.

An unsentimental 13.2 million chose neither Brokaw nor Rather this time around, instead getting their prime-time election information from ABC's Peter Jennings. Four years ago, his prime-time tally was 14.7 million.

Much, but not all, of the slack was taken up by Fox News Channel, which averaged a prime-time 8.05 million viewers Tuesday. That's a whopping 235 percent more than the 2.4 million who had come to its coverage in prime time in 2000.

Tuesday's audience was in fact FNC's biggest prime-time crowd ever, beating the previous record of 7.5 million people who had tuned in Sept. 30 for coverage of the first presidential debate.

This past Tuesday, CNN copped an average of 6.2 million viewers in prime time. That's up 7 percent from '00, when CNN had trounced FNC with an average of 5.8 million viewers.

MSNBC managed to stay on par with its '00 performance, averaging a prime-time 2.8 million viewers compared to just under 3 million four years ago.

Meanwhile, about 2 million got their election update on Comedy Central from 10 to 11 Tuesday night.

"Election Night 2004: Prelude to a Recount" was the Comedy Central show's second most watched telecast ever, behind only its live telecast of Sept. 30, following the first presidential debate, when 2.4 million tuned in.

Comedy Central was not the only youth-seeking cable network offering election coverage Tuesday night. From 11 to midnight, MTV ran something called "Choose or Lose: Election Night Wrap Up" (apparently the MTV suits who came up with that name weren't born in 2000). It featured periodic reports on how the election was going, by P. Puff Diddy Daddy, who had launched his much-hyped "Vote or Die!" youth voter registration/clothing line campaign in July.

During the first half-hour of "Wrap Up," when P. Puff Diddy Daddy reported of the election results that "It's as tight as a frog's [heinie] out there, do you hear me! It's coming down to the wire, baby!" an average of 786,000 viewers were glued to the show.

By the second half-hour, when PPDD returned to report that the race continued to be "as tight as a frog's [heinie]," only 564,000 were still watching.

But over the previous four weeks, MTV nailed more than 1 million viewers in that exact same time slot with a mixed bag of programs including the Nick and Jessica show, "Road Rules," "Real World" and "Battle for Ozzfest." No wonder that, according to exit polling, only the same small sliver of the 18-to-24 population chose "Vote" on Tuesday; the rest, presumably, decided to take their chances with "or Die!"

© 2004 The Washington Post Company



To: LindyBill who wrote (84328)11/6/2004 1:45:45 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793805
 
Every election year, we in the commentariat come up with a story line to explain the result, and the story line has to have two features. First, it has to be completely wrong. Second, it has to reassure liberals that they are morally superior to the people who just defeated them.


ROFL!



To: LindyBill who wrote (84328)11/6/2004 7:57:20 AM
From: Hoa Hao  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793805
 
Interesting post form a guy at another forum about Australian politics. We may be seperated by a common language, but I think a fair amount of this could apply to us here:

"After the recent victory of the conservatives Liberal Party in Australia, I wrote a letter to Mark Latham (our John Kerry) and the Labor front bench explaining why he didn't have my vote. Oh, it ran to a few media outlets as well. I was ignored by Latham and his Shadow Cabinet, but received tremendous support from the majority of grass-roots Labor supporters who responded."

"I'm wondering if the Democrats suffer the same problems that Labor does as I have outlined in this letter."

------------------------------------------------------------

OPEN LETTER TO MARK LATHAM

Dear Mark,

Let me begin by stating what should be the bleeding obvious: LABOR CANNOT WIN WITHOUT MY VOTE.

Who am I to make such a presumptuous statement? Well I’m a motor mechanic, I’m married , I have two mortgages, and I’ve just voted in my seventh federal election. I wear a blue collar and get greasy and sweaty for a living, and occasionally despise my job. I’m a member of a union (for the moment), and a service club, as well as being a part-time uni student. I have been both tenant and landlord, sometimes simultaneously. I’ve either worked as an employee, independent contractor or ran my own business in four different electorates in three states during the last decade. Oh, and I occasionally write a column in Online Opinion on the politics of the workforce under the pseudonym Ern O’Malley. Demographically I should be an unquestioning Labor supporter. So why have I voted for the Coalition at the last 4 elections?

Mark it is because the union hacks, policy wonks, shiny-bums, bleeding hearts and pointy-heads that run your party have simply failed to comprehend the changing nature of the Australian workforce that Labor purports to represent. You are still assuming a dichotomous Australia, divided between the haves and the have-nots, the privileged and the under-privileged, the white and the blue collar. Guess what, mate? The country no longer works that way. Neil Brown in The Australian (12/10/04) is at least one member of the commentariat who understands the fault lines have changed.

So you won 38% of the vote this time, one of the lowest ever primary votes for Labor. No doubt that the majority of these people are rusted–on Labor voters, who wouldn’t change their vote even if you were caught on camera doing the wild thing with an altar boy on election eve. They are the welfare recipients, the taxi-drivers, the award workers and the true believers.

But what of the skilled workforce? The modern tradesperson is smart, savvy, opinionated and influential. Tradies may wear blue collars and have dirt under their nails, but many of us have university-graduate incomes and middle-class lifestyles. We are climbing our own individual ladders of opportunity, through education, small business opportunities, and negative gearing. And there are a couple of million of us out there.

Mark, be crystal clear on this: LABOR CANNOT WIN WITHOUT OUR VOTES!

I know hundreds of skilled workers, and the overwhelming majority have voted for the Coalition since 1996, despite traditionally being Labor voters. We were “Howard’s Battlers” who struggled under the 13 years of “Hard Labor” and finally tired of Keating’s arrogance. Since then, we have worked hard to climb the economic ladder of opportunity offered by the reforms of both the previous Labor and current Liberal governments. We are now a distinct class of our own, and have much in common with both sides of the previous dichotomy. And we are the votes you must win back to win government.

The danger for Labor is that after 4 elections, the skilled workforce is now voting Liberal by default. What this means is that with no discernable policy difference between the parties, our vote will go to the Coalition. Labor must give us reason to change our vote in order to win it, or be forever doomed to Opposition.

We were all hanging on waiting for that reason, Mark, and it never came. That is why the opinion polls showed such a large ‘undecided’ vote so late in the campaign. We wanted to hear about your “ladder of opportunity” that featured prominently several months ago. We wanted to hear about tax reform. We have grown tired if Howard and wanted a reason to change, but you failed to provide it. There were three distinct moments when you drove a stake thru the heart of your victory – school funding, Medicare Gold and the forests policy. Regardless of the current inequities in the system, your school-funding announcement was dangerously exclusionist and smacked of religious favouritism. Our kids may not go to private schools, but it is our aspiration that they do. We saw Medicare Gold as an uncontrollable expansion of the welfare culture that would ultimately come from our pockets, and as being an exclusive policy creating further class division.

The forests policy threatened the job of each and every skilled worker in the country, because it showed us that job security not a core feature of Labor’s vision. Under a Labor government we would have always been threatened by the insidious influence of the Greens and the left of your party. This is one skilled worker who felt particularly sympathetic to the timber workers, having once lost a job as a direct consequence of a Keating budgetary decision. The forests policy announcement picked up those few of us who were still wavering after Medicare Gold and sent us scurrying back to the safe arms of the coalition.

Mark, tap this mantra into your skull until your nose bleeds: LABOR CANNOT WIN WITHOUT OUR VOTES!

Who decides what policy will fly with the electorate? The union hacks? What would they know – they represent barely a fifth of the private sector workforce, and probably less than one in ten tradespeople. And they are historically proficient at looking after themselves, not their members. You know who I’m talking about.

The bleeding hearts? Sorry, Carmen, but preferential voting will always ensure that Labor captures votes on the left. Despite all of Bob Brown’s threats, what self-respecting watermelon or avocado would ever seriously preference the Coalition? It is Middle Australia who will win you government, not the Greens. Pandering to them will doom you to opposition. Maybe this result is what you subconsciously wanted – the socialists in your party can be all histrionics and nil responsibility.

The shiny-bums and pointy-heads? Have Tim Gartrell, Mike Kaiser or Hawker-Britten ever raised a sweat or got dirt under their nails? How would they have a clue as to what we are thinking – they would be flat out changing a tap washer in the parliamentary bathroom. On second thoughts I take that back. Mike could probably empathize with the timber workers – they’ve both raised a sweat stacking branches.

My point is that you don’t seem to have anyone real advising you on policy, and it shows. I’m sure you will try to tell me that you focus-grouped everything and it flew with them. Well clearly that doesn’t work, because your policies were low-grade toxic political waste, and 62% of the electorate agree with me that they should be dumped in South Australia. Here’s a clue - next time a policy wonk has a brain flash, hire a dozen tradies from a labour hire company for the day to tear it to pieces. Run policy past real people, not vested interests or political wannabees.

Let me make it abundantly clear to you, Mark, in terms that even Bill Ludwig would understand. LABOR CANNOT WIN WITHOUT OUR VOTES!

Politics is about policy, not personality. Elections are not Australian Idol. If they were, Kim Beazley would be Prime Minister. He’s the Guy Sebastian of Aussie politics, compared to your Shannon Noll and Simon Crean’s Willie Hung. You will only win by formulating better policy than the government, and then actively selling it. When we first heard about your “Ladder of Opportunity” we were hoping for a courageous and comprehensive policy initiative – a Labor version of John Hewson’s Fightback!, which was brilliantly crafted and poorly sold. Don’t try to sell us cheap, poorly crafted policy. There is a reason good tradesmen never blame their tools – because they are of superlative quality. Likewise, if the policy Labor offers us is not up to the job, we won’t buy it. Think Snap-On, not Supa-Tool.

While on personality, drop the anti-Costello scare campaign that just insults our intelligence. Many of us voted for Keating in ’93, so we would have no problem voting for Costello in 2007.

Two rules for you to observe. ITES and KISS. Slick Willy said it best – “It’s The Economy, Stupid!” You can have all the touchy-feely policy you want – free double latte’s for gay childcare workers on national tree-cuddling day – but if you cannot sell economic policy, you will not win. Taxes must be simple, employment must be strong, and interest rates MUST remain low. You have to convince us that you are up to the task. And of course “Keep It Simple Stupid!” I’m not interested in delving thru the excruciating minutiae of your Family Tax Benefit C policy to find I can claim the possum in my tree as a dependant on alternate Wednesdays. I should not need a slide rule, a piece of string and some tea leaves to work out if I am better off. And the scattergun approach to policy used at this election failed to score a single hit – look at the polls.

Try simple policies that all Aussies can understand and relate to or benefit from. A $10,000 tax-free threshold. Paid maternity leave. Income splitting between working couples. Reduction in fuel excise. More apprenticeships and traineeships. Taxation simplification. Superannuation reform. There you go- a comprehensive reform for working Australians in 25 words. If you cannot sell policy in 25 words or less, then as Tony Soprano would say, fugghedaboudit!

Once more time for the road, Mark. YOU CANNOT WIN WITHOUT MY VOTE. If you are fair dinkum about winning in 2007, hop in you comcar and take the three-hour drive to Parkes, and we can discuss this further over a beer at the Railway Hotel. You have everything to win, and nothing to lose.

Cheers
Nudge Edwards



To: LindyBill who wrote (84328)11/6/2004 10:28:31 AM
From: MichaelSkyy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793805
 
If you want to understand why Democrats keep losing elections, just listen to some coastal and university town liberals talk about how conformist and intolerant people in Red America are. It makes you wonder: why is it that people who are completely closed-minded talk endlessly about how open-minded they are?

What I wonder is will the Liberals 'ever' get it??