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Politics : Is Secession Doable? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (621)	11/6/2004 3:28:55 PM
From: Mana	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1968

Precisely, yes! You got it. The Blues have nothing against a 9-man legislature; they only dislike it when it votes against them as it did in Bush v. Gore. When it ruled in Roe v. Wade, they applauded, even though that was clearly legislation from the bench. Exactly, and I would argue the USSC did the same with Texas. I believe that had those states NOT believe that, they never would have entered that Union. States were not forced to join the Union, and there is nothing in the Constitution that says that are forced to stay. Again, I would argue that the Constitution grants states the power to leave in the 10th amendment. Not on point. The Declaration of Independence is not a legal source document; the Constitution is, I was using the Declaration as reference to evidence of the Founders beliefs. Many of its points are seen in the Constitution. That's wonderful. The question of whether the Federal gov't would fight to preserve its territorial integrity was settled between 1861-5. In 1868, the USSC put its blessings on the slaughter. THAT is the law as of now. And that is what you face if you secede. I wonder why a State that voted to secede from the union would even care what the USSC/Union says. These are the people they are trying to get away from. The USSC ruling might give the government justification to use force but we know it would come to that even without the USSC blessing. History has shown that. I'm not seriously advocating a state seceding but I firmly believe if you can't change or alter a state of affairs you find objectionable, then it is only right that you be allowed to opt out of such an arrangement. Freedom, if one is to take it seriously, must at least include that right. The right to secede is thus the one right that is absolutely necessary in any society that calls itself "free". Anything less is totalitarianism in disguise. Lincoln was a dictator who would shame the Commissars. Most of his shameful acts have been buried by historians. Won't get an argument out of me on this.