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To: JBTFD who wrote (658357)11/6/2004 4:43:01 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Betcha can't prove that.



To: JBTFD who wrote (658357)11/6/2004 5:19:42 PM
From: Rock_nj  Read Replies (7) | Respond to of 769670
 
Evidence Mounts That The Vote Was Hacked
by Thom Hartmann

When I spoke with Jeff Fisher this morning (Saturday, November 06, 2004), the Democratic candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives from Florida's 16th District said he was waiting for the FBI to show up. Fisher has evidence, he says, not only that the Florida election was hacked, but of who hacked it and how. And not just this year, he said, but that these same people had previously hacked the Democratic primary race in 2002 so that Jeb Bush would not have to run against Janet Reno, who presented a real threat to Jeb, but instead against Bill McBride, who Jeb beat.

"It was practice for a national effort," Fisher told me.

And evidence is accumulating that the national effort happened on November 2, 2004.

The State of Florida, for example, publishes a county-by-county record of votes cast and people registered to vote by party affiliation. Net denizen Kathy Dopp compiled the official state information into a table, available at ustogether.org, and noticed something startling.

Also See:

Florida Secretary of State Presidential Results by County 11/02/2004 (.pdf)
Florida Secretary of State County Registration by Party 2/9/2004 (.pdf)



While the heavily scrutinized touch-screen voting machines seemed to produce results in which the registered Democrat/Republican ratios matched the Kerry/Bush vote, and so did the optically-scanned paper ballots in the larger counties, in Florida's smaller counties the results from the optically scanned paper ballots - fed into a central tabulator PC and thus vulnerable to hacking - seem to have been reversed.

In Baker County, for example, with 12,887 registered voters, 69.3% of them Democrats and 24.3% of them Republicans, the vote was only 2,180 for Kerry and 7,738 for Bush, the opposite of what is seen everywhere else in the country where registered Democrats largely voted for Kerry.

In Dixie County, with 4,988 registered voters, 77.5% of them Democrats and a mere 15% registered as Republicans, only 1,959 people voted for Kerry, but 4,433 voted for Bush.

The pattern repeats over and over again - but only in the smaller counties where, it was probably assumed, the small voter numbers wouldn't be much noticed. Franklin County, 77.3% registered Democrats, went 58.5% for Bush. Holmes County, 72.7% registered Democrats, went 77.25% for Bush.

Yet in the larger counties, where such anomalies would be more obvious to the news media, high percentages of registered Democrats equaled high percentages of votes for Kerry.

More visual analysis of the results can be seen at ustogether.org, and www.rubberbug.com/temp/Florida2004chart.htm.

And, although elections officials didn't notice these anomalies, in aggregate they were enough to swing Florida from Kerry to Bush. If you simply go through the analysis of these counties and reverse the "anomalous" numbers in those counties that appear to have been hacked, suddenly the Florida election results resemble the Florida exit poll results: Kerry won, and won big.

Those exit poll results have been a problem for reporters ever since Election Day.

Election night, I'd been doing live election coverage for WDEV, one of the radio stations that carries my syndicated show, and, just after midnight, during the 12:20 a.m. Associated Press Radio News feed, I was startled to hear the reporter detail how Karen Hughes had earlier sat George W. Bush down to inform him that he'd lost the election. The exit polls were clear: Kerry was winning in a landslide. "Bush took the news stoically," noted the AP report.

But then the computers reported something different. In several pivotal states.

Conservatives see a conspiracy here: They think the exit polls were rigged.

Dick Morris, the infamous political consultant to the first Clinton campaign who became a Republican consultant and Fox News regular, wrote an article for The Hill, the publication read by every political junkie in Washington, DC, in which he made a couple of brilliant points.

"Exit Polls are almost never wrong," Morris wrote. "They eliminate the two major potential fallacies in survey research by correctly separating actual voters from those who pretend they will cast ballots but never do and by substituting actual observation for guesswork in judging the relative turnout of different parts of the state."

He added: "So, according to ABC-TVs exit polls, for example, Kerry was slated to carry Florida, Ohio, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, and Iowa, all of which Bush carried. The only swing state the network had going to Bush was West Virginia, which the president won by 10 points."

Yet a few hours after the exit polls were showing a clear Kerry sweep, as the computerized vote numbers began to come in from the various states the election was called for Bush.

How could this happen?

On the CNBC TV show "Topic A With Tina Brown," several months ago, Howard Dean had filled in for Tina Brown as guest host. His guest was Bev Harris, the Seattle grandmother who started www.blackboxvoting.org from her living room. Bev pointed out that regardless of how votes were tabulated (other than hand counts, only done in odd places like small towns in Vermont), the real "counting" is done by computers. Be they Diebold Opti-Scan machines, which read paper ballots filled in by pencil or ink in the voter's hand, or the scanners that read punch cards, or the machines that simply record a touch of the screen, in all cases the final tally is sent to a "central tabulator" machine.

That central tabulator computer is a Windows-based PC.

"In a voting system," Harris explained to Dean on national television, "you have all the different voting machines at all the different polling places, sometimes, as in a county like mine, there's a thousand polling places in a single county. All those machines feed into the one machine so it can add up all the votes. So, of course, if you were going to do something you shouldn't to a voting machine, would it be more convenient to do it to each of the 4000 machines, or just come in here and deal with all of them at once?"

Dean nodded in rhetorical agreement, and Harris continued. "What surprises people is that the central tabulator is just a PC, like what you and I use. It's just a regular computer."

"So," Dean said, "anybody who can hack into a PC can hack into a central tabulator?"

Harris nodded affirmation, and pointed out how Diebold uses a program called GEMS, which fills the screen of the PC and effectively turns it into the central tabulator system. "This is the official program that the County Supervisor sees," she said, pointing to a PC that was sitting between them loaded with Diebold's software.

Bev then had Dean open the GEMS program to see the results of a test election. They went to the screen titled "Election Summary Report" and waited a moment while the PC "adds up all the votes from all the various precincts," and then saw that in this faux election Howard Dean had 1000 votes, Lex Luthor had 500, and Tiger Woods had none. Dean was winning.

"Of course, you can't tamper with this software," Harris noted. Diebold wrote a pretty good program.

But, it's running on a Windows PC.

So Harris had Dean close the Diebold GEMS software, go back to the normal Windows PC desktop, click on the "My Computer" icon, choose "Local Disk C:," open the folder titled GEMS, and open the sub-folder "LocalDB" which, Harris noted, "stands for local database, that's where they keep the votes." Harris then had Dean double-click on a file in that folder titled "Central Tabulator Votes," which caused the PC to open the vote count in a database program like Excel.

In the "Sum of the Candidates" row of numbers, she found that in one precinct Dean had received 800 votes and Lex Luthor had gotten 400.

"Let's just flip those," Harris said, as Dean cut and pasted the numbers from one cell into the other. "And," she added magnanimously, "let's give 100 votes to Tiger."

They closed the database, went back into the official GEMS software "the legitimate way, you're the county supervisor and you're checking on the progress of your election."

As the screen displayed the official voter tabulation, Harris said, "And you can see now that Howard Dean has only 500 votes, Lex Luthor has 900, and Tiger Woods has 100." Dean, the winner, was now the loser.

Harris sat up a bit straighter, smiled, and said, "We just edited an election, and it took us 90 seconds."

On live national television. (You can see the clip on www.votergate.tv.)

Which brings us back to Morris and those pesky exit polls that had Karen Hughes telling George W. Bush that he'd lost the election in a landslide.

Morris's conspiracy theory is that the exit polls "were sabotage" to cause people in the western states to not bother voting for Bush, since the networks would call the election based on the exit polls for Kerry. But the networks didn't do that, and had never intended to. It makes far more sense that the exit polls were right - they weren't done on Diebold PCs - and that the vote itself was hacked.

And not only for the presidential candidate - Jeff Fisher thinks this hit him and pretty much every other Democratic candidate for national office in the most-hacked swing states.

So far, the only national "mainstream" media to come close to this story was Keith Olbermann on his show Friday night, November 5th, when he noted that it was curious that all the voting machine irregularities so far uncovered seem to favor Bush. In the meantime, the Washington Post and other media are now going through single-bullet-theory-like contortions to explain how the exit polls had failed.

But I agree with Fox's Dick Morris on this one, at least in large part. Wrapping up his story for The Hill, Morris wrote in his final paragraph, "This was no mere mistake. Exit polls cannot be as wrong across the board as they were on election night. I suspect foul play."

commondreams.org



To: JBTFD who wrote (658357)11/6/2004 5:22:40 PM
From: Rock_nj  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 769670
 
In all my years of following elections, I'd always found exit polls to be very reliable. Not always dead on, but reliable enough to call the winner. Now, we've suddenly have exit polls that are off by a mile in the first Presidential election in which electronic voting was widely used, and it's in those states that have the electronic voting that have strange results. Something stinks! Phew!



To: JBTFD who wrote (658357)11/7/2004 6:07:16 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Respond to of 769670
 
You've been lied to. Or you are lying. Or ignorant. Take your pick.


Exit Polls EXIT POLLS ACTUAL VOTE Difference
Vote Vote Vote Predicted Vote Predicted
By % % ACTUAL VOTE vs vs
STATE # respondents Gender for for %Bush %Kerry %Bush %Kerry Actual Actual
G Bush J Kerry Bush Kerry
AR 1459 %Male 44 59 40 0.5396 0.4504 0.5434 0.4451 -0.0038 0.0053
%Female 56 50 49

Arizona 1907 %Male 47 58 41 0.5482 0.4418 0.5503 0.4437 -0.0021 -0.0019
%Female 53 52 47

CA 2390 %Male 49 47 50 0.4394 0.5357 0.4426 0.4429 -0.0032 0.0928
%Female 51 41 57

FL 2862 %Male 46 53 46 0.5138 0.4762 0.5222 0.4696 -0.0084 0.0066
%Female 54 50 49

Iowa 2512 %Male 46 52 47 0.5038 0.4916 0.5005 0.4911 0.0033 0.0005
%Female 54 49 51

MA 1991 %Male 47 49 48 0.4529 0.5277 0.4501 0.5304 0.0028 -0.0027
%Female 53 42 57

Mass 889 %Male 48 41 57 0.3684 0.6168 0.3695 0.6211 -0.0011 -0.0043
%Female 52 33 66

Mich 2555 %Male 49 50 48 0.4796 0.5055 0.4794 0.511 0.0002 -0.0055
%Female 51 46 53

Minn 2190 %Male 48 48 51 0.4696 0.5152 0.4762 0.5107 -0.0066 0.0045
%Female 52 46 52

Missouri 2264 %Male 47 52 47 0.5306 0.4594 0.5336 0.4606 -0.003 -0.0012
%Female 53 54 45

NH 1883 %Male 51 52 47 0.4857 0.5043 0.4898 0.5036 -0.0041 0.0007
%Female 49 45 54

NM 2006 %Male 45 51 48 0.499 0.4855 0.5011 0.4876 -0.0021 -0.0021
%Female 55 49 49

NY 1452 %Male 45 42 56 0.409 0.582 0.4049 0.5776 0.0041 0.0044
%Female 55 40 60

Nevada 2189 %Male 48 54 44 0.5036 0.4816 0.5049 0.4786 -0.0013 0.003
%Female 52 47 52

Ohio 2020 %Male 47 52 47 0.5094 0.4859 0.5096 0.4857 -0.0002 0.0002
%Female 53 50 50

OR 1064 %Male 45 56 43 0.4775 0.518 0.4732 0.5125 0.0043 0.0055
%Female 55 41 59

PA 2107 %Male 47 51 48 0.4835 0.5118 0.4862 0.5079 -0.0027 0.0039
%Female 53 46 54

TN 1783 %Male 45 59 40 0.579 0.411 0.5683 0.425 0.0107 -0.014
%Female 55 57 42

TX 1794 %Male 46 59 40 0.6116 0.3784 0.611 0.3828 0.0006 -0.0044
%Female 54 63 36

WA 2178 %Male 43 51 47 0.4587 0.527 0.4566 0.5295 0.0021 -0.0025
%Female 57 42 57

WI 2321 %Male 47 52 46 0.4882 0.4971 0.4933 0.4979 -0.0051 -0.0008
%Female 53 46 53

WV 1728 %Male 47 55 43 0.5553 0.43 0.5605 0.4325 -0.0052 -0.0025
%Female 53 56 43


Here's the source of actual vote counts: uselectionatlas.org

Here's exit polls. They were CNN's. Hardly a conservative source.
cnn.com

You'll notice the largest difference vetween vote vount predicteed bt exit polls and actual count was a bit over 1%. Mostly the difference was tenths os a percent. As little as 0.1%. The difference between predicted and actual vote counts are the last 2 columns.

All the battleground states are in there plus some that went heavily one way or the other. 23 states in all.

Those are the facts, bud. Start talking.



To: JBTFD who wrote (658357)11/7/2004 11:24:28 PM
From: Alan Smithee  Respond to of 769670
 
I guess we are in denial?

Unable to recognize that your guy lost, fair and square?

Conspiracy'rus.com