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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (22261)	11/8/2004 1:11:28 PM
From: bull_derrick	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23153

Ed, regarding silver linings, I suspect this could be a topic for disagreement even 20 years from now. Let's take the Viet Nam war. Certainly a lot of debate and energy went into that. One viewpoint says it was a waste of human life. Another viewpoint is it was the high water mark of the communist cantagion and while it directed American energies there, it also directed Chinese energies there also instead of other places like Thailand. If Al Qaida wasn't preoccupied with fighting our troops in Iraq, would they not be occupied with bombing discos in Berlin, trains in Spain or perhaps American targets? I'm not sold on the whole thing, by the way, because history is still being written, but I do understand the goals of this president. History will be written on whether it will be accomplished and that's not yet certain.

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (22261)	11/8/2004 3:25:49 PM
From: energyplay	Respond to of 23153

Not really looking for a silver lining on the mess, and I'm not talking about sealing the borders, which would be extremely difficult. As a rough analog, in WW2 the Soviets held back 'liberating' Warsaw, Poland because the resistance was fighting the Germans. Soviets did not want a strong resistance movement, and were happy to have some other group attack Germans, so they waited until the resistance had collasped. Why lose the 'Alamo factor' with either a pull back, negotiated settlement or local victory ?