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To: unclewest who wrote (84875)	11/8/2004 4:19:28 PM
From: aladin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793782

UW, The whole science of deterrence is built around the concept of a nation state that has assets so critical to its existence it could not suffer their loss. That is the essential difference with the Jihadi's - while remaining supranational - there is no city or base to destroy. Let no one doubt that these groups, if given the chance to use a biological or nuclear weapon would do so. Given that there is no state to deter or counter-attack, how would we react? What could we do? That is the 9/11 conundrum and the reason that Bush was re-elected - many feel far safer sending our troops to engage the terrorists in the nexuses of Iraq and Afghanistan. To not engage leaves us with what choice? To wait it out in fortress America? To deter the Jihadi's by invoking a MAD policy to destroy all muslim states if we are attacked? Europe has chosen to wait - and the simmering pot in Holland shows us that they may not like what happens when it boils over. John

To: unclewest who wrote (84875)	11/8/2004 4:32:42 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793782

I see little reason to discuss this with you in detail since you don't seem to be aware that in your lifetime Americans have already endured Bio-attacks in Oregon, Florida, NY, New Jersey and Washington DC. I was not trying to initiate a discussion on our disagreement, just taking the opportunity to reinforce our agreement since you handed me a rare opportunity to do that. <g> I don't see any reason to discuss it with you either since you either don't grasp the concept of probability or you are employing mockery as a shut-down tactic. Neither is conducive to a fruitful discussion. The rosy glow of agreement was nice while it lasted.

To: unclewest who wrote (84875)	11/8/2004 4:56:31 PM
From: Alan Smithee	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793782

I see little reason to discuss this with you in detail since you don't seem to be aware that in your lifetime Americans have already endured Bio-attacks in Oregon, Florida, NY, New Jersey and Washington DC. I doubt you know about the bio-terror in Pennsylvania in 1763, the British attempts to use Smallpox against the Continental Army, the German attempts to export bio-agents to the US in 1916, or the Japanese WWII unit 731. Let's not forget smallpox attacks on Indians.