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To: Dayuhan who wrote (86842)11/17/2004 10:40:37 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793549
 
Most sources agreed that it was probable that Saddam retained at least the very primitive WMD capability already displayed

Saddam's previously displayed chemical warfare capabilities were hardly primitive. Check out the Anfal campaign.



To: Dayuhan who wrote (86842)11/17/2004 11:53:55 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793549
 
Strutting their stuff in Asia, to the delight of war-planners inside DoD
Thomas P M Barnett

¦"China Now Test-Flying Homemade AWACS: Radar Planes Intended For Use in Taiwan Strait," by Edward Cody, Washington Post, 13 November 2004, p. A19.

¦"Japan Protests To China Over Incursion by Nuclear Sub," by Associated Press, Washington Post, 13 November 2004, p. A19.

¦"Exercise Displays Japan's Ambitions: Seeking New International Stature, Government Steps Away From Pacifist Past," by Anthony Faiola, Washington Post, 7 November 2004, p. A21.

The U.S. Navy has long presented itself as the "glue" of Asia, meaning the "presence" force whose constant loitering in-area and persistent efforts at building up military-to-military ties on a bilateral basis with every possible navy in the region have served to decrease local ambitions for military power, obviated local arms races, and kept a lid on inter-state rivalries. And while that perspective is maintained out there in the field (meaning Pacific Command in Honolulu), let me tell you, the Navy back home seems to take increasing delight in hyping what they believe is the growing threat of war in Asia.

Is there a growing threat? I think there is a Japan and a China that are both committed to having a bigger military role in both the region and the world at large—ones befitting their mature (Japan) and emerging (China) economic clout. I think both militaries, having nothing better to do, tend to get overly excited about one another out of boredom. Other than the threat which is Taiwan's bid for independence, these two states basically have nothing to fight over, unless you're stupid enough to believe one side's navy is going to be able to enforce some claim over undersea oil reserves believed to lie between the two states. Why the two countries would bother fighting over these reserves instead of simply exploiting them jointly, is apparently beyond the military strategists on both sides (clear proof that military strategists the world over tend to plan for war solely in the context of war instead of taking into account the context of everything else—here, the growing economic integration of the two states).

Japan is becoming highly dependent on China as a target for production outsourcing as well as a market for exports (China's domestic demand was basically THE reason why Japan emerged out of its long-term economic recession). Meanwhile, China becomes dependent on Japanese investments.

Meanwhile, however, their two militaries seem to delight in dicking with one another like two bored cats with nothing else to do but grab each other's tails. Where is this going? Absolutely nowhere, but it does warm the hearts of national insecurity experts within the naval community, who delight in recounting each and every tail, reminding us all unceasingly, that if we'd just give them the chance, we could find ourselves involved in some really cool wars in Asia.

What can America do to end this shadow boxing? We can involve both militaries in larger means, not to mention better ends. The answer is we need to grab both countries and stick them into an East Asian NATO. We need to harness their energy toward goals beyond just dreaming of idiotic wars with one another.

Until then, naval experts back here will continue to wax poetic about the "possibilities"!

Posted by Thomas P.M. Barnett
thomaspmbarnett.com



To: Dayuhan who wrote (86842)11/18/2004 12:43:13 AM
From: unclewest  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793549
 
The CIA complaint was that DOD was picking up sources that CIA had already rejected as unreliable, nad funneling their "information" to the administration, which was then asking why the CIA had missed out on this "valuable" (i.e. convenient) information.

The director of the CIA informed POTUS that WMDs in Iraq are a slam dunk.

Are you suggesting that Tenat got his information from DOD rather than the agency he headed, the CIA?

Puhleeeeeze.
Try another fairy tale.



To: Dayuhan who wrote (86842)11/18/2004 9:46:15 AM
From: carranza2  Respond to of 793549
 
Your revision of history is astonishing for its complete factual inaccuracy; so much of what you say is so easily refuted that I suspect there is something else at play.

Have you bothered to read Wodward's book, for starters?



To: Dayuhan who wrote (86842)11/22/2004 4:29:21 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793549
 
Japanese Official Warns of Fissures in North Korea
By JAMES BROOKE - NYT

TOKYO, Nov. 21 - After weeks of reports from North Korea of defecting generals, antigovernment posters and the disappearance of portraits of the country's ruler, the leader of Japan's governing party warned Sunday of the prospects of "regime change" in North Korea.

"As long as Chairman Kim Jong Il controls the government, we have to negotiate with him, but it is becoming more doubtful whether we will be able to achieve anything with this government," said Shinzo Abe, acting secretary general of the Liberal Democratic Party, on Fuji TV, referring to talks on North Korea's abductions of Japanese in the 1970's. "I think we should consider the possibility that a regime change will occur, and we need to start simulations of what we should do at that time."

By breaking an unspoken taboo on talking publicly about "regime change" in North Korea, the powerful Japanese politician underlined a feeling spreading in the region that cracks are starting to show in the Kim family's control over North Korea after nearly 60 years.

Hard intelligence is difficult to come by in North Korea, one of the world's most tightly controlled societies, where people are barred from sending letters abroad, making international telephone calls, emigrating or talking to foreigners without supervision. To dissuade defections, the government routinely imprisons relatives left behind.

But in recent months, there have been signs of fissures in these walls. There are indications that news is leaking out of North Korea by cellphone and that criticisms of the government are being posted in public places. Those developments and the angry response to recent legislation in the United States intended to flood the country with radios that can pick up foreign broadcasts suggest that the leadership realizes its one great achievement - near total information control - is threatened.

With the reports of Mr. Kim's portraits being removed from some public buildings and news of military defections, outside analysts are speculating that the personality cult around "Dear Leader" is being curbed, either to advance painful economic reforms or to head off a military coup fomented by China.

Persistent reports that anti-Kim leaflets and posters have recently appeared gained more credibility with the publication last Thursday in Sankei Shimbun, a conservative Tokyo newspaper, of what was described as a photograph of a hand-printed flyer smuggled out of North Korea.

"Juche philosophy made people slaves," it read, referring to the nationalist ideology of self-reliance created by Mr. Kim's father, Kim Il Sung, who died in 1994. "Juche philosophy created an absolutist hereditary kingdom, rather than one where the people are the main players."

"The Kims, father and son, made our people miserably poor and this country a world dropout that is far away from the situation of meat soup, a tile-roofed house and silk clothes that Kim Il Sung promised by 1957," it continued.

Douglas Shin, a Korean-American pastor who helps North Korean refugees flee through China, said his contacts told him that posters opposed to Kim Jong Il had appeared in three northern cities this fall. On Sunday, the Kyodo news agency of Japan reported that North Korea was cracking down on people in border cities who helped pass letters to foreigners or used cellphones to communicate with the outside world.

"Some residents have contacts with people in neighboring countries by hiding mobile phones in places with good reception, like tall buildings and hilltops," warns a North Korean document photographed by a Japanese aid group, Rescue the North Korean People Urgent Action Network. The group said the directive was published by the governing Workers Party of North Korea in November 2003.

Last spring, after a huge explosion narrowly missed Mr. Kim's armored train, the North Korean authorities banned most cellphones.

"Mobile phones have become a weapon in antigovernment movements," Lee Young Hwa, an assistant professor at Kansai University and a leader of the Japanese aid group, told Kyodo.

Analysts also say they have seen more high-level defections of late, possibly a result of more permeable borders and greater dissatisfaction.

In Seoul, an editor at Monthly Chosun, a magazine that closely follows North Korean affairs, said in an interview that when he was in northern China earlier this year, Chinese officials showed him North Korean wanted posters for generals who had managed to reach China with their families. The editor, who asked not to be identified, estimated that in recent years, 130 North Korean generals had defected to China, about 10 percent of the military elite.

Of this group, the most significant, he said, are four who have been integrated into active duty with the Chinese military in the Shenyang district, along the Korean border.

Last May, Lt. Gen. O Se Ok, a rising member of the military elite, left the North Korean port of Chongjin by boat, met a Japanese boat in the Sea of Japan and eventually made his way to the United States, according to NHK television of Japan and Kazuhiro Araki, a professor of Korean politics at Takushoku University in Japan. The general's 73-year-old father, O Kuk Ryol, ranked second on the Central Military Commission at the time, after Kim Jong Il.

"The defection of such a person was a great shock to the North Korean establishment," Professor Araki said.

During World War II, the Soviet Union armed a group of Korean exiles in Khabarovsk, just across the Amur River from what was then Japanese-controlled Manchuria. Among them was Kim Il Sung, who in 1945 was installed as the leader of Soviet-occupied northern Korea.

Now, the South Korean editor speculated, China may be forming a fallback plan should Kim Jong Il prove incapable of reforming or holding on to power. "The scenario the Chinese are looking into is to make a buffer regime through such North Korean general defectors," he said.

And then there is the mystery of the portraits, which disappeared this fall from some hotels, meeting halls and government buildings. In a country where mishandling the ruler's portrait has resulted in prison sentences, the change is believed to have required high-level authorization.

A North Korean diplomat who defected last year told the South Korean news agency Yonhap last Thursday that the embassy where he was posted received an order in early 2003 to remove the pictures.

"It was a direct order from Kim Jong Il, but no one, not even high-ranking officials had the nerve to follow the order, so the portraits continued to hang," Yonhap quoted the defector as saying.

Rüdiger Frank, who teaches East Asian political economy at the University of Vienna, wrote last week of his visit to North Korea in September. He said he "found no picture of any leader in my hotel room, as well as only Kim Il Sung's portrait in a conference room where just a few months before images of both father and son could be seen."

"An estimated 50 percent of all slogans in the capital read 'The Great Leader Kim Il Sung will always be with us,' hinting at a strong emphasis on the deceased founder" of North Korea "at the expense of his successor," he wrote in an essay posted on the Internet.

"Kim Jong Il might be resolving one of the most pressing issues in North Korean domestic politics: his succession," he continued. "We might be witnessing the first step out of many, which will eventually lead to the establishment of some kind of collective leadership in the D.P.R.K., in the name of Kim Il Sung," using the initials for North Korea's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

Bradley K. Martin, author of a biography of Kim Jong Il, speculated that Mr. Kim might want to adopt a lower profile to avoid blame at home for North Korea's economic failures and to avoid "coming into the cross hairs of U.S. hawks, who were demonizing him the way they had demonized Saddam Hussein."

"Sooner or later, large numbers of North Koreans would hear that he was an object of derision to outsiders, would hear that the official version of his birth in a log cabin on Mount Paektu was false," Mr. Martin, wrote in an essay last week, alluding to the end of North Korea's information monopoly. "His admiring references to the Thai and Swedish systems in recent years suggested that Kim Jong Il was looking to transform the country into something like a limited monarchy rather than the absolute dictatorship it had become."

Meanwhile, North Korean officials insist that no change is under way.

Li Sang Su, an official with the Korea News Service, which distributes reports of the North Korean news agency in Japan, said the portrait change was merely a routine updating of images.

"They change the portraits after some years to new ones because the portraits get worn and the person gets older," he said.

On Friday, China's official New China News Agency carried an interview with a North Korean Foreign Ministry official, Ri Gyong Son, who attributed reports about the disappearing portraits to the United States and its allies who "want to overthrow" Mr. Kim.

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company