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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (21925)	11/20/2004 8:41:13 AM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82035

Gus > Somehow, the motto of our intelligence services seems to be, If you can't dig up REAL Islamist terrorists then... make them up! I'm sure you know what Goebbels said -- the bigger the lie the more people believe it. thebestlinks.com >>"It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion." "The bigger the lie, the more it will be believed" "The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly... it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over."<< That's what the whole "war against terrorism" is. Just one big lie to enable W & pals to grab the Muslim oil -- and their cousins in Israel to grab the Palestinian land. As you know.

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (21925)	11/20/2004 11:43:18 PM
From: philv	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82035

My French isn't nearly good enough to properly translate that article Gus, but here is a guy who really wants to get tough with the Muslims in Holland. sfgate.com And it seems like all of Europe is singing from the same song book. sfgate.com

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (21925)	11/21/2004 9:16:42 AM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 82035

Gus, Charlie Reese agrees with you about the reason for the US war with Iraq antiwar.com >>With all of the political hoopla and heifer dust that is spread about the Middle East, you might think we are totally dependent on Middle Eastern oil. Actually, we are not. The United States imports about 62 percent of its oil and other petroleum products. Only about 11 percent of domestic usage comes from the Persian Gulf countries. Saudi Arabia, for example, supplies about 7.2 percent of domestic usage. Our main imports by far come from Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, and Nigeria. From January to July 2004, Saudi Arabia was fourth, just ahead of Nigeria and behind Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela. Iraq was sixth. These figures [.pdf] are from the American Petroleum Institute. We are bogged down in the Middle East because of Israel, not oil. Iraq was perceived as a threat to Israel, not to Saudi Arabia and certainly not to us. A man who at one time prepared the president's daily intelligence briefing told me years ago that there was never any indication whatsoever that Iraq was going to invade Saudi Arabia. We just used that as an excuse for the first Gulf War. The majority of American diplomatic efforts in the Middle East are directed at trying to persuade Arab countries to accept Israel.<< Would be easier now to persuade stones to fly!