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To: Yogizuna who wrote (14060)11/26/2004 5:02:56 PM
From: Patricia Trinchero  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 20773
 
We are all stuck with Bush now. I just hope GOd doesn't send him another message to attack someone else !!!!!

GLad there are people out there that see the dangerous repercussions of a leader who claims divine rights.

Pat



To: Yogizuna who wrote (14060)11/27/2004 12:50:03 AM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 20773
 
Re: If Bush had made it clear to me he was on a "mission from god" back when he was running against Al Gore, he never would have had my support.

The warnings were out there: Shrub : The Short but Happy Political Life of George W. Bush by MOLLY IVINS

tinyurl.com

I tried very hard to get anyone who would listen to pay attention. Molly very intelligently suggested that there are only three things that matters when looking at a candidate, the record, the record and the record.

And Bush's record as the Governor of Texas would have told the world exactly what to expect from Bush the President. That is to say, they could expect nasty treatment for anyone who wasn't born with a silver coke spoon in their nose, indiscriminate trashing of sensible environmental laws, excessive secrecy and unbridled cruelty wrapped up in a born-again enchilada of disinformation and dirty politics.

But would the American public listen to such truths? Nope. Not your average Republican. These turkeys make the No-Nothing Party of the 1830s look absolutely enlightened. Sheesh.

What can we say about America's experiment in democracy? Well two things.

1) It's taken us 240 years to finally wreck what the Founding Fathers intended to create, but we've done a hell of job of it recently.

2) "Democracy is the theory that the common man knows exactly what he wants and deserves to get it....... good and hard."

That last observation was made by H.L. Mencken. A man who knew a thing or two about America.

In 1920 he observed: "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."



To: Yogizuna who wrote (14060)11/27/2004 12:51:13 PM
From: Ron  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 20773
 
In My Next Life
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

In my next life, I want to be Tom DeLay, the House majority leader.

Yes, I want to get almost the entire Republican side of the House of Representatives to bend its ethics rules just for me. I want to be able to twist the arms of House Republicans to repeal a rule that automatically requires party leaders to step down if they are indicted on a felony charge - something a Texas prosecutor is considering doing to DeLay because of corruption allegations.

But most of all, I want to have the gall to sully American democracy at a time when young American soldiers are fighting in Iraq so we can enjoy a law-based society here and, maybe, extend it to others. Yes, I want to be Tom DeLay. I want to wear a little American flag on my lapel in solidarity with the troops, while I besmirch every value they are dying for.

If I can't be Tom DeLay, then I want to be one of the gutless Republican House members who voted to twist the rules for DeLay out of fear that "the Hammer," as they call him, might retaliate by taking away a coveted committee position or maybe a parking place.

Yes, I want to be a Republican House member. At a time when 180 of the 211 members of the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit in Iraq who have been wounded in combat have insisted on returning to duty, I want to look my constituents and my kids in the eye and tell them that I voted to empty the House ethics rules because I was afraid of Tom DeLay.

If I can't be a Republican House member, I want to be Latrell Sprewell, the guard for the Minnesota Timberwolves. I want to say with a straight face that if my owner will only give me a three-year contract extension for a meager $21 million, then he's not worth working for, because "I've got my family to feed."

Yes, I want to be Latrell Sprewell. At a time when N.B.A. games are priced beyond the reach of most American families, when half the country can't afford health care, when some reservists in Iraq are separated from their families for a year, including this Thanksgiving, I want to be like Latrell. I want to make sure everyone knows that I'm looking out for my family - and no one else's.

If I can't be Latrell Sprewell, I want to be any American college or professional athlete. For a mere dunk of the basketball or first-down run, I want to be able to dance a jig, as if I'd just broken every record by Michael Jordan or Johnny Unitas. For the smallest, most routine bit of success in my sport, I want to be able to get in your face - I want to know who's your daddy, I want to be able to high-five, low-five, thump my chest and dance on your grave. You talkin' to me?

I want to be able to fight on the court, off the court, in the stands and on the sidelines. I want to respect no boundaries and no norms. And when I make your kids cry, I want to be able to tell you to just "chill" - that my coach says "stuff happens" and that my union rep is appealing my punishment in the name of the Bill of Rights and the Magna Carta. Yes, in my next life, I want to be The Man.

If I can't be The Man, then I at least want to be the owner of a Hummer - with American flag decals all over the back bumper, because Hummer owners are, on average, a little more patriotic than you and me.

Yes, I want to drive the mother of all gas-guzzlers that gets so little mileage you have to drive from gas station to gas station. Yes, I want to drive my Hummer and never have to think that by consuming so much oil, I am making transfer payments to the worst Arab regimes that transfer money to Islamic charities that transfer money to madrassas that teach children intolerance, antipluralism and how to hate the infidels.

And when one day one of those madrassa graduates goes off and joins the jihad in Falluja and kills my neighbor's son, who is in the U.S. Army Rangers, I want to drive to his funeral in my Hummer. Yes, I want to curse his killers in front of his mother and wail aloud, "If there was only something I could do ..." And then I want to drive home in my Hummer, stopping at two gas stations along the way.

If I can't be any of these, then I want to be just a simple blue-state red-state American. I want to take time on this Thanksgiving to thank God I live in a country where, despite so much rampant selfishness, the public schools still manage to produce young men and women ready to voluntarily risk their lives in places like Iraq and Afghanistan to spread the opportunity of freedom and to protect my own. And I want to thank them for doing this, even though on so many days in so many ways we really don't deserve them.

nytimes.com