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To: TobagoJack who wrote (56892)	12/4/2004 5:25:25 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi Jay, I'm wondering if these Stratfor pontificators are worth the big bucks. Seems to me that Asia Times covers much the same topics with much more verve and with much less reliance upon the subscriber's shekels. All you need to know is this. Recently one of the twelve U.S. strike force carriers was tethered to a oiler dispensing jet A and roaring below the radar and barely above the deck was a Sukhoi visitor: sukhoi.ru With a friendly wag of the wings, this bogey just told the Admiral that he was dead. Figuratively speaking. Then the Sukhoi disappeared below the radar in an instant. The whole episode lasted less than 70 seconds. It was simply a proof-of-concept exercise. In less than a minute, 8% of the U.S. Navy's Carrier Strike Force could have been stricken.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (56892)	12/4/2004 6:49:33 PM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Pretty funny... all that ability for pontificatory bullsh*&t and she's missed all the easiest pure economic calls since I've been on SI except to debate them to smitherines. Maybe the "French Connection" will straighten it all out once and for all. ROFLMAO! Another anecdote supporting one of the great Lao Tzu truths: "Those who know do not talk. Those who talk do not know." DAK

To: TobagoJack who wrote (56892)	12/4/2004 10:04:24 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi Jay - I don't really have much insight into power politics, by which I mean the type of thing you raised in your post, military hostility of one type or another. I think I've recommended Thomas P.M. Barnett to you before. He teaches at the US Naval War College, and has a lot of insight into the thinking in the Pentagon. He doesn't think the US has any particularly hostile intentions towards China, India or Russia. They're all in The Core with us, and we need to work together. The enemy is in The Gap. His latest on China: thomaspmbarnett.com I do keep up regularly with various pronouncements by the Bush administration and the Neocons, and haven't run across anything that would lead me to believe that the present administration has any particular hostility towards Russia, China or India. I could point out that, while there is support in the US for Yushchenko in Ukraine, his big backers are Madeline Albright (Secretary of State under Clinton, a Democrat), Zbigniew Brzezinski (Secretary of State under Carter, a Democrat), and George Soros, who spent millions trying to get John Kerry elected. Albright and Zbigniew Brzezinski were also supporters of John Kerry. Not sure how that plays out since Bush was reelected, but I assume that Bush would support Yushchenko if he were elected. But, Bush does like Putin, at least as a person.