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To: Michael Watkins who wrote (153351)	12/4/2004 9:07:44 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I wish we had coaxed Saddam to become more like Gaddafi, who was well along the path of enlightenment prior to 9/11. Gaddafi seems to be a more complex guy, and his turning seemed more linked to trying to secure a place in history rather than fear of the USA. His early signs of redemption where in African, not American relationships.

To: Michael Watkins who wrote (153351)	12/4/2004 9:13:11 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I remember reading that either Gaddafi or a European very close to the deal saying it had nothing to do with Iraq and that they had been working on it for two years already. The timing was coincidental.

To: Michael Watkins who wrote (153351)	12/4/2004 9:18:24 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Libya had been "flipping" over -- working to rejoin the international community -- for years. Yeah, Saddam had also been working to rejoin the international community for years. The important question is, on whose terms? The dictators' terms or the terms of the international community? Libya accepted the terms of the international community and confessed to a quite advanced nuclear weapons program that had been heretofore unknown to the international community. Libya did this after Saddam had been deposed and captured. This much we know for a fact. You can sit and call the timing coincidence and claim that Gaddafi never said what he said (he himself has not denied it to my knowledge), and proclaim that Gaddafi would have behaved the same way even if we had not invaded Iraq. This story stretches credulity, imo.