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To: goldworldnet who wrote (153416)	12/6/2004 11:27:59 AM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Goldworldnet, Re: Some Americans enjoy denigrating the US at every available opportunity. I think it is mostly a juvenal counterculture mentality. Some Americans enjoy cheerleading the U.S. at every opportunity; even when they should be saddened at her actions. They forget that cheerleaders never get in the game and that saying it doesn't make it true. I suspect it's mostly people who feel personally powerless who attempt to achieve a juvenile sense of power through convincing themselves that they're part of the powerful and always right "winning team."

To: goldworldnet who wrote (153416)	12/6/2004 11:52:38 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Everyone is capable of saying things which are lying or misleading. Nevertheless, we presume that most people tell the truth most of the time. I do not see a reason to assume that the government is much more prone to lie, especially if "raisons d'etat" are absent. Thus, I assume that what is factually asserted by the government is pretty close to the truth, or the result of normal error, until the evidence of deceit strongly accumulates. I have known a lot of people in government, in political office, in the bureaucracy, and in the military. By and large, they are good people, not saints, but not uniquely sinful.......