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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Suma who wrote (90790)	12/6/2004 7:53:43 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

"Does anyone else experience this now that we are in this religious war..." I think what you may have experienced was a sense of shame because you were cavorting half naked at the gym again. You have turned this moment around and blamed these poor women for your conduct. Seek a priest immediately.

To: Suma who wrote (90790)	12/6/2004 9:18:57 PM
From: ManyMoose	Respond to of 108807

The minute I see the Muslim world condemning the murder of innocents instead of rewarding it, and making a genuine attempt to join the 21st century, and practicing live and let live--that's the minute that I will say that such feelings should be put away forever. I don't think people should act on these feelings unless they are genuinely threatened and have a legitimate self-defense motive. I just don't think Muslims should be surprised when somebody gives them the cold shoulder. It's just not safe to do otherwise, as Muslims have proven over and over. For those Muslims who condemn the behavior of people who commit crimes under the guise of jihad: Do something about it!

To: Suma who wrote (90790)	12/7/2004 1:36:58 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I don't think we are in a religious war. Perhaps you are in one, but I'm not. Some Muslims are in a religious war, but a lot of them are just really pissed off at having their country invaded (and before we invaded Iraq, many other Muslims felt the US was trying to control their region, as we were). Is it wrong for the Us to try to control other regions in order to secure its oil supply, which happens to lie underneath other countries? Well, if you happen to be in those other countries it probably looks wrong. Religion is only one component in a very large struggle over resources, imo. If you see it for what it is, I think you become less angry at any particular group of people, and more focused on solutions. Will the solutions necessarily be the goody basket for the US that people in the US might wish they were going to be? Probably not. JMO