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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (18883)	12/6/2004 7:33:33 PM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

God does not have to be real to have existed or now exist. The question of reality is not touched on. Reality is much too difficult a question. We are not even asking whether or not the universe is real. Before, in non time, the universe existed, there was no reality as there was nothing to sense that there was real or imagined things. In particular there was no imagined thing, unless god existed and could imagine it. God does not have to be real to exist. Remember we are talking about a conceptual thing, that is beyond the universe system, as it cannot exist as part of it. It operates by its own laws. Reality is a concept of a part of the universe. If god exists then it would have to be super natural. (above natural). Reality is a property of the sense of perceived and testable things. God would not be testable or perceivable being super natural. Ergo, existent but not necessarily real. Time is a property of matter and energy. It is not an absolute scale of all. So time cannot exist before matter began to change, but other things such as a frozen or unchanging matter thing could conceivably have existed. It does not have to existed according to universal laws, as the universe did not exist yet and had no laws EC<:-}