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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Greg or e who wrote (18893)12/10/2004 11:37:34 AM
From: Solon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
"I refuted both of you directly and convincingly"

You did nothing of the sort. That is a pipe dream!

"All men are created equal" is NOT a religious principle; nor does egalitarian justice relate in any way to religious principles.

Firstly, religious principles have no coherence as they draw from thousands of religions and are based on a combination of primitive writings, arbitrary prejudices, and the agendas of cunning charlatans. Secondly, (if I may use one religion as an example)--the Christian religion conceives of justice in a manner entirely disparate to the secular State. The Constitution believed that people were born with equal rights and that guilt needed to be earned in order to diminish those rights. Christianity, on the other hand, believes that people are BORN stained with unearned sin and that ultimate "justice" is a matter of kissing the right supernatural ass. In other words, God places a different value on people for arbitrary reasons that are entirely antithetical to the secular concept of value and justice as embodied in the Constitution. So relating the secular Constitution to religion in any way, shape, or form is an exercise in futility--to use generous language.

Finally, any religious principle of justice is simply the self serving principle of millions of religious people who are doing "God's" work of justice by dividing humanity into racial and religious groups--we versus them--and proceeding to espouse violence and hate and atrocities against innocent people. For you to pretend a common basis in the egalitarian justice of secular reason which sees ALL people as equally entitled to rights until they earn guilt...and the superstitious justice of religious clans who believe that people are born stained and must earn the right to live or to be respected by kissing the right ass on the right side--this is to pretend a great deal more than you can carry in a clay pot.