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Politics : Just the Facts, Ma'am: A Compendium of Liberal Fiction -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Suma who wrote (22327)	12/8/2004 9:49:48 AM
From: longnshort	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Fonda was NOT a hero, we knew at the time she was betraying our prisoners, where were you at the time???

To: Suma who wrote (22327)	12/8/2004 11:48:08 AM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 90947

Let's see. Yes, I'm old enough to remember those times well. I even remember the first moon landing, MLK's assassination and lot's of other things. And yes, I have a relative who served in Vietnam - my father - in the Marines. I also had friends with older brothers serving there. Am I now qualified to comment? "They were hero's [sic] at the time and lauded for their courage ..." A correction seems in order. They were SEEN AS heroes and lauded BY SOME. They were seen as traitors by many others. "I don't think we can go back and rewrite history without knowing the prevalent feelings of that period..." It is historical revisionism to suggest that, just because most people now view Vietnam as a mistake, that 1) it WAS, therefore, a mistake and 2) that those who did such things as consort with the enemy, as Fonda and Kerry did, and worked to end the war on the enemy's terms were right to do so. You forget that, when we got into the war in Vietnam, our purpose was to help a sovereign nation, South Vietnam, defend itself against an aggressive enemy, the North Vietnamese and the Viet Cong, allied with our own Cold War rivals in an effort to spread communist influence and control. You also forget that our failure in Vietnam was due, at least in part, to domestic politics hindering our ability to "fight to win" that war. You forget that both Fonda and Kerry actively supported the cause of the enemy - Fonda participating in anti-American, pro-NVA propaganda from the very place where people like John McCain were being tortured and Kerry, still a Naval officer, meeting in Paris with the NVA and VC, and returning home to promote a "peace treaty" on terms dictated by the enemy. Finally, you forget that it was people like Fonda and Kerry who so demonized the United States military with their propaganda campaigns that soldiers returning home, including enlisted men simply serving their country, were literally spat upon (or worse) if they dared to wear their uniforms off the planes. No, YOU may THINK them heroes and YOU may laud them, but that doesn't MAKE them heroes, MAKE them laudable, or make your interpretation of history into historical fact.

To: Suma who wrote (22327)	12/8/2004 4:26:36 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

"I don't think we can go back and rewrite history..." Until the liberal left learns that most Americans despise anyone who attempts to rewrite history they will continue to shrink their ranks. Despite your persistent misperception of reality, it is the liberal left that revises history to fit into their current Talking Points. And with the advent of alternative sources of news, facts & reality based history, there are more & more folks every day who are learning this horrific truth. Believe otherwise at your own peril.

To: Suma who wrote (22327)	12/8/2004 10:19:21 PM
From: sandintoes	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 90947

I think Forrest Gump showed the scum ball drugged out hippies for what the were..and they haven't changed. They still hate America. What most liberals fail to mention is that JF Kennedy got us involved in Viet Nam, and Johnson got us in deeper and tied the militaries hands... While good American men were dying, the filthy hippies were protesting the military, the police (called pigs), the government, the flag, their bras, and their draft cards.. Anything Abbie Hoffman could come up with to pass the doobies to the hippies to make them feel good while they tried to destroy the USA.