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To: Neocon who wrote (90936)	12/9/2004 6:46:18 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Um. Leaving aside your definitive certitude on these things, where in the world do you come up with the "evolution is a dead end" business?

To: Neocon who wrote (90936)	12/10/2004 12:34:50 AM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

"Any consistent atheism will acknowledge that there is no objective system of value; that there is no metaphysical knowledge, only pragmatic systems; and that evolution is a dead end. The fact that humanists claims to be atheistic, and yet to represent universal human values; that they claim to have insight into the nature of things through science; and that they take an optimistic view of evolution, shows that they are a faith." So what should we do right now, immediately?!?

To: Neocon who wrote (90936)	12/10/2004 9:33:30 AM
From: redfish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

There is actually no such thing as atheism. If I ask the Pope "Do you believe in Zeus?" and he says "No," does that make him an atheist? How about if he denies belief in Shiva the Destroyer or Thor the God of Thunder? To be an atheist, you would have to consider and deny every possible variation of "God." Since among the almost infinite variations there are many that the human mind can't begin to comprehend, it is impossible to consider and deny each one, and therefore literally impossible to be an atheist. With respect to the Christian God alone I'm sure there are thousands of variations that are constantly evolving. The Christian God of 1430 is not the Christian God of 2004. And the Christian God of 2050 will not be the same as the Christian God of today. The question of whether God exists is pointless. The real question is, if God does exist, what is the nature of God.