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To: LPS5 who wrote (47516)	12/13/2004 8:42:37 PM
From: LKO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

The Civil War had nothing to do with egalitarianism; Some may call that an incorrect interpretation based on reading the same text. King Lincoln may just be sucking up to Mr. Greely and lying like any successful politician to keep allies. The same King Lincoln also said in the Gettysberg Address: "Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure. .... " Sounds like a connection (even if indirect) to egalitarianism to me.

To: LPS5 who wrote (47516)	12/14/2004 12:21:07 AM
From: Ira Player	Respond to of 50167

Lincoln The creation of the Confederacy was a result of Lincoln opposition to the extension of slavery to the territories. He believed that the "Missouri Compromise" of 1820 should stand and actions were being taken / had been taken to undermine it. The southern states knew that a Lincoln election would end that tactic. Lincoln stopped (at least) 2 attempts by military commanders to free slaves in southern territory under their control, believing that it unjustly deprived the owners of their property without due process. He made several attempts at "Compensated Emancipation" but could not get it through Congress. He attempted to use the threat of emancipation to shorten the duration of the war on September 22, 1862, by setting a deadline of January 1, 1863 for States to renter the Union or the slaves within them would be forever freed. No State reentered the Union prior to the deadline, forcing Lincoln to issue the Emancipation Proclamation on January 1, 1863. If the threat had had it's intended result, slavery would have survived the Lincoln Presidency. Egalitarianism The concept of egalitarianism is relatively new in the US. The original intent of "All men are created equal" meant basic rights, not economic equality. Each "man" had a right to achieve all that his effort and natural abilities allowed. Ira