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To: Oeconomicus who wrote (91660)	12/17/2004 3:20:26 PM
From: redfish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

First of all, your statement about "Bushie's oedipal stuff with his daddy", as you put it, demonstrates your lack of understanding of the term. An "oedipal complex" is something a male might have regarding his mother, not his father. It involves competition by the son against his father for the affection of his mother: # Conflict develops: the parent of the same sex becomes competition for the other parent's affection. # Child thus seeks to displace the other parent. # But the child learns how to compete for attention by mimicking the behavior of the parent of the same sex. [we are learning by competitive imitation the roles of heterosexual love.] utexas.edu GWB is competing with his father for the affection of Barbara Bush. Given that Barbara Bush is widely reported as being a harridan from hell, the development of an oedipal complex is not surprising. Young George had a beastly mother whose approval he could never gain, so he is seeking it as an adult.

To: Oeconomicus who wrote (91660)	12/17/2004 4:36:25 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

This is the tight, psychological description of oedipal complex: oedipal complex n : a complex of males; desire to possess the mother sexually and to exclude the father; said to be a source of personality disorders if unresolved [syn: Oedipus complex, Oedipal complex] One of the manifestations, or results, of the above-referenced complex in the family dynamic is fierce competition with the father. You can look at any biographical references to Junior and discover that he could not compete with his father academically, in sports, in the military, whatever. I could pull up reams of this analysis from the web, but I am at work and kind of busy right now. Going to war in Iraq was something he could do to prove his manliness, and so he did. There was no logical reason to do so--we had some important business to attend to in Afghanistan. George H.W. understood why all-out war in Iraq would only lead to chaos. Junior going to Iraq really made for an ineffective war on terror (according to Richard Clarke and others), and now we have created so many terrorists I don't know what we're even going to do with all of them if we git em, you know? I am not interested in whether you think I use words appropriately. If you continue to refer to me--or to any other poster at Feelies--as stupid, I will ban you because it is a personal attack. It is that simple.