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To: Lane3 who wrote (91434)12/19/2004 2:29:29 PM
From: JDN  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793800
 
Well, I meant it in the sense that the term Shortage is being used in the press. They are presuming it was a purposal shortage due to lack of caring or something. I am saying its a supply shortage as we convert over to a new type vehicle. Believe me, an armored Humvee will never be able to perform up to the original specs of an unarmored Humvee. Personally, I would like to see more STRYKER vehicles if we are going to continue to fight this type of warfare, BUT these vehicles are very expensive. jdn



To: Lane3 who wrote (91434)12/19/2004 2:48:10 PM
From: KLP  Respond to of 793800
 
How do you plan for this? Najaf, Karbala Car Bombs Kill at Least 62

apnews.myway.com

Dec 19, 2:04 PM (ET)

By PAUL GARWOOD


BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Car bombs rocked Iraq's two holiest Shiite cities Sunday, killing at least 62 people and wounding more than 120, while in downtown Baghdad dozens of gunmen carried out a brazen ambush on car, pulling out three election officials and executing them on the pavement in the middle of morning traffic.

The bombs exploded an hour apart. First, a suicide blast ripped through parked minibuses at the entrance to the Karbala bus station. Then a car bomb shattered a central square in Najaf, crowded with residents watching a funeral procession. The city police chief and provincial governor were among the group but were not hurt.

Also Sunday, a militant group claimed to have kidnapped 10 Iraqis working for an American security contractor, threatening to kill them unless the company pulls out of Iraq.

The violence was the latest in an insurgent campaign to disrupt the crucial Jan. 30 elections, the first national polls since the fall of Saddam Hussein.



While many have feared that voting in the Sunni areas of northern and central Iraq will be hampered - if not impossible - because of the spiraling violence, Sunday's attacks highlighted that even the strongholds of Iraq's Shiite majority in the south are vulnerable. Shiites have been strong supporters of the elections, which they are likely to dominate.

The car bomb in Najaf detonated in central Maidan Square where a large crowd of people had gathered for the funeral procession of a tribal sheik - about 100 yards from where Gov. Adnan al-Zurufi and police chief Ghalib al-Jazaari were standing.

Youssef Munim, head of the statistics department at Najaf's al-Hakim Hospital, said 47 people were killed by the explosion and 69 were wounded. Two more dead and 21 other wounded were taken to the nearby al-Zahraa Hospital, according to nurse Mohanad Abdul Redha.

"A car bomb exploded near us," al-Zurufi said. "I saw about 10 people killed."

Al-Jazaari believed he and al-Zurufi were the targets of the attack, in which he said three explosives went off at about 2:45 p.m. Both men were unhurt. It was not immediately clear what the other explosions were from.


Residents were pulling bodies of the dead from damaged shops at the square, which is about 400 yards from the Imam Ali Shrine, the holiest Shiite site in Iraq.

The blast sheered the facades off surrounding buildings and brought down part of a two-floor building on a main thoroughfare. Dozens of men clambered over the rubble, digging for survivors.

The bombing in Karbala, about 45 miles northwest of Najaf, destroyed about 10 passenger minibuses and set fire to five cars outside the crowded bus station. Firefighters tried to put out the blazes as ambulances ferried burned and bleeding casualties to the nearby al-Hussein hospital.

Ali al-Ardawi, assistant for the hospital's director, said 13 people were killed in the attack and 33 injured.

It was the second bombing in Karbala in a week. On Wednesday, a bomb went off at the city's gold-domed Imam Hussein Shrine, killing eight people and wounding 40 in an apparent attempt to kill a top aide to Iraq's most powerful Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani.


The shrine, located near the bus station, was hit by a March 2 suicide bombing that killed 85 people and wounded 100. The holy sites in Najaf and Karbala, south of Baghdad, house the tombs of Shia Islam's most revered saints.

Insurgents on Sunday also carried out a new attack on election officials, when about 30 militants hurling hand grenades and firing machine guns attacked a car carrying five employees of the non-governmental Independent Electoral Commission as they were driving to work on Baghdad's central Haifa Street, the scene of repeated clashes between security forces and insurgents.

Pistol-wielding gunmen - their faces uncovered - pulled three of the employees out of the car and forced them to kneel in the road, while the traffic behind them on the thoroughfare braked to a halt and panicked drivers tried to reverse away from the ambush site.

The gunmen punched one of the men as he lay on the ground, then the militants shot all three men at point-blank range. The two other passengers in the election employees' car escaped unhurt.

The commission identified the slain men as Hatem Ali Hadi al-Moussawi, deputy director for the commission's Karkh office, and two of his office employees - Mahdi Sbeih and Samy Moussa. The commission condemned the killings as a "terrorist ambush" and said one gunman was killed in the confrontation.

The commission "urges the Iraqi people and all its political, religious, religious and social leaders and the authorities to condemn this inhumane crime," it said in a statement.

A police official said the ferocity of the clashes prevented police from nearing the area. The attackers, most of whom were seen brazenly roaming Haifa Street without anything covering their faces, later set fire to at least one vehicle before fleeing the area, witnesses said. U.S. and Iraqi National Guard forces cordoned off the area after the attacks. A U.S. military spokesman had no immediate details.

Also, insurgents claiming to represent three Iraqi militant groups issued a videotape showing what they said were 10 abducted Iraqis who had been working for an American security and reconstruction company.

Masked insurgents in the video said they represent the Mujahedeen Army, the Black Banner Brigade and the Mutassim Bellah Brigade, all previously unknown groups. Nine blindfolded hostages could be seen lined up against a stone wall and a 10th was lying in a bed, apparently wounded.

The militants said they would kill the hostages if the company, Sandi Group, does not leave the country. They also threatened more attacks on its Iraqi operations.

Chad Knauss, an American and deputy chief operations officer of Sandi Group in Iraq, declined to comment on the claims. The company, based in Washington, employs 7,000 in Iraq.

Insurgents detonated two roadside bombs and a car bomb targeting U.S. forces in the volatile city of Mosul, 225 miles northwest of Baghdad, in three separate attacks during a two-hour period Sunday. Three soldiers were wounded in one roadside bomb blast, while there were no casualties from the others, according to military spokesman Lt. Col. Paul Hastings.

Gunmen attacked homes of Kurdse in the Arab-majority town of Hawija, 150 miles north of Baghdad, killing four Kurds, according to Maj. Gen. Anwar Mohammed Amin, chief of the Kirkuk Iraqi National Guard.

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Associated Press Writers Mariam Fam and Sameer N. Yacoub in Baghdad, Abdul Hussein Obeid in Najaf and Gassid Jabbar in Karbala contributed to this report.



To: Lane3 who wrote (91434)12/19/2004 7:00:27 PM
From: KLP  Respond to of 793800
 
This is true...If we don't have enough of what we need, there is a shortage. ...We have a shortage enough people in the country that are willing to stand up and be heard that ILLEGAL immigrants are just that ...ILLEGAL....and shouldn't be here.

We can accommodate LEGAL immigrants and Refugees, if we need to. ILLEGALS don't have any right to be here, and should have no rights at all if they are.