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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (154657)	12/23/2004 1:24:50 AM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Sigh! I thought about deleting that part of my post, but I really don't intend to rehash the VN war. I had enough during the last election. But FWIW....I don't believe we would have "lost" that war if the US congress had been doing their job. Although mine was a simplistic argument.....it is none the less still up to Iraqis whether they want democracy to succeed. The average person in Iraq understand what I mean. Also, without US intervention, they would have never had a chance. M

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (154657)	12/23/2004 11:05:55 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Actually, you have no idea to what extent the activities of the United States contributed to the evolution of Vietnam. For example, by exhausting the urge of conquest, we may have succeeded in containing the communists to Indochina, rather than permitting them to wage war in Thailand and Myanmar. By Nixonian "triangulation", we contributed to the deradicalization of China, which in turn provided an economic model for the Vietnamese. Through competition with the Soviet Union, we contributed to its demise, and therefore the defunding of subsidized regimes like Cuba and Vietnam. By creating a large pool of Americanized Vietnamese in the South, we may have made a transition to an "entepreneurial model" more likely for united Vietnam. Etc. Maybe that is why the Vietnamese seem, oddly, to like us, rather than holding a big grudge. Or maybe they just want investors.......