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To: LindyBill who wrote (92032)	12/23/2004 12:57:30 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 793840

When I heard Kristol tear into Rumsfeld, the first thing that came to my mind is, "does Kristol think Wolfowitz, a fellow neocon, will get the job if Rumsfeld goes?" I don't know what Kristol thought about Rumsfeld before, but his vitriol level suggested to me that it was never love. Rumsfeld is plain spoken. Some consider that a fault. I don't. The long knives have been out for Rumsfeld for a long time now. I don't think he's going anywhere, but Bush may tell him to put a muzzle on it again.

To: LindyBill who wrote (92032)	12/24/2004 2:20:20 AM
From: KLP	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793840

Rumsfeld Makes Surprise Visit to Iraq apnews.myway.com [KLP Note: It's too bad that Robert Burns can't and doesn't give full quotes that Mr. Rumsfeld has said....he picks out the pieces that sound bad, and eliminates the rest of the sentence. He also makes some comments that he would like the world to believe ...i.e. quote Burns: but postwar problems in Iraq have soured his standing with Americans. Half now say he should resign even though the president just signed him on for his second-term cabinet. unquote: It has NOT soured his standing with Americans....and nearly half of America voted for Democrats...and the Democrats can't bash Bush as easily now, as he won the election handily....therefore, they will try to attack Rumsfled....plus, who cares what Lott, McCain and Kristol have to say....????] Dec 23, 10:59 PM (ET) By ROBERT BURNS MOSUL, Iraq (AP) - U.S. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, on a surprise Christmas Eve visit with the troops three days after the devastating attack on a U.S. military dining hall here, told soldiers he remained confident of defeating the insurgency and stabilizing Iraq, while noting that to some "it looks bleak." "There's no doubt in my mind, this is achievable," Rumsfeld, who flew here under tight security, told a couple of hundred 1st Brigade soldiers of the 25th Infantry Division at their commander's headquarters. He promised them that later in life they will look back and feel pride at having contributed to a mission of historic importance. "When it looks bleak, when one worries about how it's going to come out, when one reads and hears the naysayers and the doubters who say it can't be done, and that we're in a quagmire here," one should recall that there have been such doubters "throughout every conflict in the history of the world," he said. Hoping to bring holiday cheer to the wounded soldiers and demonstrate compassion for the troops' sacrifices, Rumsfeld landed in pre-dawn darkness and immediately headed for a combat surgical hospital where many of the bombing victims were treated after Tuesday's lunchtime attack on a mess tent. The most seriously wounded already have been transferred to a U.S. military hospital in Germany. (AP) Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld gestures during a news conference on Wednesday, Dec. 22, 2004 in... Full Image Out of concern for security, Rumsfeld's aides went to unusual lengths to keep his visit a secret prior to his arrival, with only a few reporters and one TV crew accompanying him on an overnight flight from Washington. In an interview aboard the C-17 cargo plane that brought him to Mosul, Rumsfeld said he'd been planning to visit U.S. troops here long before Tuesday's deadly attack, believed to have been carried out by a suicide bomber. "The focus of the trip is to thank the troops and wish them a Merry Christmas," he said. The blast Tuesday at Forward Operating Base Marez was the deadliest single attack on a U.S. base in Iraq, striking as hundreds of soldiers sat down to lunch. Fourteen U.S. servicemembers were among the 22 killed. The top U.S. general in northern Iraq said Thursday that the suicide bomber believed to have blown himself up in the dining tent was probably wearing an Iraqi military uniform. The episode has focused new attention on the ability of the U.S. military to protect its forces. Security experts said improved screening of visitors and fewer large troop gatherings would help counter insurgents' tactics. Some individual bases have taken steps such as posting guards outside mess tents. Military officials discussed ways to increase security for troops in Iraq but announced no major shifts Thursday. Rumsfeld's visit to Mosul came as U.S. Marines engaged in the heaviest fighting in weeks in Fallujah, the embattled city west of Baghdad, where U.S. troops waged bloody battles before clearing the city of most militants last month. At least three Marines were killed in combat that underlined how far the city and surrounding area are from being tamed as the United States and its Iraqi allies try to bring quiet before national elections Jan. 30. Rumsfeld's stealth Christmas Eve trip came on the heels of several difficult weeks for the defense chief. Several high-profile Republicans have publicly criticized Rumsfeld, prompting President Bush to defend him Monday as a "good human being who cares deeply about the military and deeply about the grief that war causes." Speaking for himself on Wednesday, Rumsfeld said he stays awake at night worrying about soldiers and their families and shares their grief over lost loved ones. "I am truly saddened by the thought that anyone could have the impression that I, or others here, are doing anything other than working urgently to see that the lives of the fighting men and women are protected and are cared for in every way humanly possible," he said. More than 1,300 Americans have been killed since the war with Iraq began in March 2003. The Pentagon is increasing the number of troops in Iraq to a wartime high of 150,000 in January to boost security for the Iraqi elections. Rumsfeld has made several visits to troops in the region, most recently two weeks ago to a forward base in Kuwait. There, a handful of soldiers openly challenged him about inadequate equipment and long deployments. Rumsfeld cut off their complaints by saying, "You go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you might want or wish to have." He faced another firestorm earlier this week because he was not personally signing condolence letters to the families of dead soldiers, as the president does. Critics fault him for poor postwar planning and for a steadily growing list of problems, from failure to strangle the insurgency to prisoner abuses in Iraq and Guantanamo. Rumsfeld's shoot-from-the hip style drew a popular following during the successful military campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq, but postwar problems in Iraq have soured his standing with Americans. Half now say he should resign even though the president just signed him on for his second-term cabinet. At 72, Rumsfeld is the oldest defense secretary; he was also the youngest when he served for President Gerald Ford.