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To: KLP who wrote (154781)	12/25/2004 10:36:22 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Interesting McGovern letter to the NYTimes and perhaps it puts this war in context time-wise in relation to vietnam. I think it was 1965 when escalation in vietnam began in earnest. The Biden/McCain/Lugar group suggests that additional troops are needed now. There is little to suggest the two wars will be identical but if they are, only bad things await us in Iraq. I heard a general on FOX give the two reasons we would win in iraq: 1. Because we have no choice but to win and 2. We have the best soldiers. Yes and Yes but neither guarantees victory. The good guys, which i firmly believe we are, are not destined to win all the time. And sometimes cutting losses is the best you can do. I dont want to be sitting here four years from now with 5000 casualties with little progress. Lets have the elections, declare victory and allow the iraqis to have their country even if it means divorce and civil war. nytimes.com McGovern's Advice: Rumsfeld In, G.I.'s Out Published: December 25, 2004 To the Editor: I'm for keeping Donald H. Rumsfeld as secretary of defense because he is against increasing the number of American soldiers in Iraq. Sending more soldiers only means more targets for those Iraqis who don't want our army occupying their country. I did not want any Americans to risk their lives in Iraq. We should bring home those who are there. So better Mr. Rumsfeld than some eager beaver who wants to double our army in the desert as we repeatedly did in the jungle to no avail in the 1960's and 70's. We toppled Saddam Hussein; as George Aiken, that wonderful old Republican senator, said of an earlier time of troubles, Declare victory and come home. Once we left Vietnam and quit bombing its people, they became friends and trading partners. Iraq has been nestled along the Tigris and Euphrates for 6,000 years. It will be there 6,000 more whether we stay or leave, as earlier conquerors learned. I tried to persuade Santa Claus to bring our troops home for Christmas, but he said, "No, Rumsfeld sees light at the end of the tunnel if we hang in there and don't listen to old veterans like McGovern." Is there really a Santa Claus, Virginia? If so, why were 14 soldiers killed at lunch after a hard night searching for that light at the end of the tunnel? George McGovern Mitchell, S.D., Dec. 22, 2004 The writer was a senator from South Dakota and the 1972 Democratic presidential nominee.